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Titel: Carn Dum Reforged, reforged again!
Beitrag von: hoho96 am 30. Mär 2015, 14:51
in the past couple of days (well since the release) I was working on converting my map Carn Dum Reforged to work with Edain 4.0 system.
I must say, I'm proud of the results so far :)

Anyway, I also took the chance to introduce some enhancements to the map which I think they're very much needed. I'm looking forward for your feedback  xD
here's the screenshots:
(http://i.imgur.com/naA0k3L.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/IOdTF7W.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/VwIuWwT.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/hQw2wTZ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/0SygCHm.png)
Titel: Re: Carn Dum Reforged, reforged again!
Beitrag von: Fine am 30. Mär 2015, 15:00
Looks great! A true stronghold of the Witch-king. Great to see an Angmar fortress with garrisonable walls like Minas Tirith or Helm's Deep.
I noticed there are only 8 build plots within the fortress which seems a bit low. Two more behind the outer wall would fit the space nicely, I think.
Keep up the good work :)

Edit: Did you add build options for postern gates in the outer wall? It would be great to have those. Also, the number of settlements for the besieging players outside the fortress seems a bit low. Other than that, I think it's an awesome map! :)
Titel: Re: Carn Dum Reforged, reforged again!
Beitrag von: Elendils Cousin 3. Grades am 30. Mär 2015, 15:13
Any chance of increasing the size of your screenshots? I might be overlooking something, but even after following the links to imgur they seem incredibly small.
Titel: Re: Carn Dum Reforged, reforged again!
Beitrag von: hoho96 am 30. Mär 2015, 16:31
Zitat
Any chance of increasing the size of your screenshots?
My bad  xD it's my first time with Imgur and i'm still struggling to get the right links  [uglybunti]
any tip is very much welcomed  :)
Titel: Re: Carn Dum Reforged, reforged again!
Beitrag von: hoho96 am 30. Mär 2015, 17:18
Zitat
I noticed there are only 8 build plots within the fortress which seems a bit low.
If you can notice from the larger screenshots (finally got them to work!) the outer wall is not yet finished. I'm planing to put a couple more plots behind the wall as you've said ;)

Zitat
Did you add build options for postern gates in the outer wall? It would be great to have those. Also, the number of settlements for the besieging players outside the fortress seems a bit low
I never actually thought about postern gates. the thing is the wall is rather short. so a postern gate would basically be a main gate that the enemy can't pass :/
I'm thinking to expand the map a little bit south, so the attacker can have more space to maneuver. and maybe fit in a couple more settlements.
However, I think I'll stay on one outpost to balance out the attackers.
I think of it this way: the defender would probably have ~10 build plots. while the attackers together they would have 12 plots + the settlements + the outpost.
Titel: Re: Carn Dum Reforged, reforged again!
Beitrag von: Ealendril der Dunkle am 30. Mär 2015, 18:55
Huh, looking great!
Titel: Re: Carn Dum Reforged, reforged again!
Beitrag von: Elendils Cousin 3. Grades am 30. Mär 2015, 19:09
Screenshots are much better now^^
It looks quite promising, but with so much open space it is a bit difficult to give proper feedback. I will gladly do so when you are finished though ;)
Titel: Re: Carn Dum Reforged, reforged again!
Beitrag von: TiberiusOgden am 31. Mär 2015, 01:00
It is nice to see that Carn dum was reforged by you, but I would like to see Carn dum downloaded by me!  :D
Titel: Re: Carn Dum Reforged, reforged again!
Beitrag von: hoho96 am 31. Mär 2015, 09:58
It will surely be.
To quote someone "it will be ready when it's ready"  [ugly]
Titel: Re: Carn Dum Reforged, reforged again!
Beitrag von: TiberiusOgden am 31. Mär 2015, 10:07
Yes,
I'll "just wait for the next update" about it.  :P


Titel: Re: Carn Dum Reforged, reforged again!
Beitrag von: Lord of Mordor am 31. Mär 2015, 13:12
Looks extremely badass, nice work xD
Titel: Re: Carn Dum Reforged, reforged again!
Beitrag von: hoho96 am 7. Apr 2015, 16:53
More screenshots of the latest progress:
(http://i.imgur.com/gFGt7aV.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/qRG1XLv.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/L018VCl.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/zvQTulO.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/A0EcDjB.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/cN6KbZj.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Xmy8Aqg.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/IcUT3BD.jpg)

I'm still not content with the citadel, and I wouldn't mind some suggestion about what to do with the space behind the wall.
I'm very proud with the main gate (It's just magnificent  [uglybunti] ), and the smoking cave next the left stairway is where the reinforcements would come and go (I found that some sort of a tunnel for off-map reinforcements would suit the mountainous style of the map very well.
Titel: Re: Carn Dum Reforged, reforged again!
Beitrag von: Whale Sharku am 7. Apr 2015, 16:57
Epic stuff, please make sure to share this with as many Edain players as possible :D
Titel: Re: Carn Dum Reforged, reforged again!
Beitrag von: Elendils Cousin 3. Grades am 8. Apr 2015, 10:41
I like how you implement the reinforcements, sounds like a pretty cool idea. Have you thought about putting some neutral Angmar buildings behind the wall to fill the open space? I. e. some wolf pits or barracks would fit the fortress theme, you'd just have to make sure they don't allow you to recruit units. You could also add some sort of hierarchy by putting a sorcerer building (don't know the english name, sorry^^) and/or barracks at  the raised levels and maybe some orc buildings at the lower levels.
Also, are you going to add some stuff outside of the fortress or is that part finished?

Overall it looks pretty sweet already, although I would like some sort of alternative route to get into/out of the fortress, not just the main gate.
Titel: Re: Carn Dum Reforged, reforged again!
Beitrag von: NetoD20 am 18. Apr 2015, 00:19
Awesome map, can't wait to play it.
Titel: Re: Carn Dum Reforged, reforged again!
Beitrag von: Chiska am 26. Apr 2015, 10:48
Now this, is a fortress. Epic work, can't wait to play on it!
Titel: Re: Carn Dum Reforged, reforged again!
Beitrag von: ThorinsNemesis am 28. Apr 2015, 21:51
Hey hoho96 I have some suggestions about the map, mostly the citadel:
You can make a citadel similar to the Carn dum citadel from Lord of the Rings War in the North (https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7560/16244335575_1379def9fd_b.jpg) by enlarging an Angmar wall hub and placing some other structures in the middle of it, between the 3 "teeth".
Or, if you don't like War in the North's interpretation of Carn Dum, maybe you can make the Carn dum citadel similar to the Carn dum castle in Lord of the Rings Online.
These are just ideas though :D
Titel: Re: Carn Dum Reforged, reforged again!
Beitrag von: hoho96 am 28. Apr 2015, 22:00
quite possible. I actually thought into it. we'll see what will happen ;)
Titel: Re: Carn Dum Reforged, reforged again!
Beitrag von: TiberiusOgden am 28. Apr 2015, 22:02
Mainly we must not be modest. :P xD
Lotro version of Carn Dum: http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm86/Dordrac/ScreenShot00162.jpg
Titel: Re: Carn Dum Reforged, reforged again!
Beitrag von: ThorinsNemesis am 28. Apr 2015, 22:32
I always wanted to see War in the North's and Lotro's Carn dum implemented in BFME2 maps.
You can make the map to be LOTRO's Carn Dum, but you should add that kind of 'PJ movies'  feeling (War in the North had it); I like a bit more Carn dum from Lotro as it looks more evil, and I hope you can make your map a bit more like it, but add that movies feeling  ;)
Titel: Re: Carn Dum Reforged, reforged again!
Beitrag von: ThorinsNemesis am 1. Mai 2015, 20:26
Also if you would make your Carn Dum map more like in Lotro (but with movies feeling  xD ) maybe you can make the citadel look like in this concept art: https://masteroflore.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/carn-dum-e1424630198776.jpg (it looks cooler than ingame; or make your Carn Dum citadel a mixture of the one ingame in Lotro and the one from the concept art)?
Titel: Re: Carn Dum Reforged, reforged again!
Beitrag von: Chiska am 5. Mai 2015, 18:05
Someone needs to recreate Mt. Gram. It looks too Arnorish for an evil base
Titel: Re: Carn Dum Reforged, reforged again!
Beitrag von: hoho96 am 6. Mai 2015, 21:28
Someone needs to recreate Mt. Gram. It looks too Arnorish for an evil base
Aside from this being the wrong board for such a request, i for one don't have interest in such a map, and we have currently several projects going on that would take some time to finish like the first map pack  (with "we" i mean me and dr.house).

Also after i finish this map, i was thinking to try my hand in making a singleplayer scenario  which would actually be my first  :P
any practical suggestion is very welcomed :D
Titel: Re: Carn Dum Reforged, reforged again!
Beitrag von: Gandalf The Gray am 8. Aug 2015, 23:46
awesome map
Titel: Re: Carn Dum Reforged, reforged again!
Beitrag von: The Dark Lord am 31. Aug 2015, 14:16
so wil this be added in tghe mappacks or not?
Titel: Re: Carn Dum Reforged, reforged again!
Beitrag von: Finrod_(Felagund) am 26. Okt 2015, 11:41
How is work going my friend
Titel: Re: Carn Dum Reforged, reforged again!
Beitrag von: Ealendril der Dunkle am 26. Okt 2015, 12:35
How is work going my friend
+1
Please share this epic stuff with us.  xD
Titel: Re: Carn Dum Reforged, reforged again!
Beitrag von: hoho96 am 26. Okt 2015, 13:11
How is work going my friend
+1
Please share this epic stuff with us.  xD
Well the last beta broke the World Builder, soooo  [ugly]
After a horrible accident when I uped for Win10 I deleted the map  8-| then I started to work on it again.
My only major issue is time. Between a major exam next saturday, and keeping up with the community here, and participating in a sort of tournament in my World of Tanks community (wot-uni),... oh well, you get the picture  :(
BUT it just need some little final touches and the map will be ready for a first release, hopefully as soon as I get the damn world builder to work  :D
Titel: Re: Carn Dum Reforged, reforged again!
Beitrag von: Darkayah am 17. Nov 2015, 20:15
really nice Map!  :)

A thousand times better than the EA-Games Map!  (**)
Titel: Re: Carn Dum Reforged, reforged again!
Beitrag von: Gandalf The Gray am 17. Nov 2015, 20:29
every map is better than EA-Games Map xD
Titel: Re: Carn Dum Reforged, reforged again!
Beitrag von: hoho96 am 17. Nov 2015, 20:49
every map is better than EA-Games Map xD
Actually you will be surprised  [ugly]
Titel: Re: Carn Dum Reforged, reforged again!
Beitrag von: Gandalf The Gray am 17. Nov 2015, 23:08
or UN finished
Titel: Re: Carn Dum Reforged, reforged again!
Beitrag von: Darkayah am 6. Apr 2016, 10:44
What is the Status of the Map? :)
Titel: Re: Carn Dum Reforged, reforged again!
Beitrag von: hoho96 am 6. Apr 2016, 11:29
Due to some unfortunate events, my pc can no longer run bfme. However Freduse now have the map, and will make a scripted mission with it, so stay tuned ;)
Titel: Re: Carn Dum Reforged, reforged again!
Beitrag von: Darkayah am 6. Apr 2016, 11:36
Thank you for the answer.  :p
Titel: Re: Carn Dum Reforged, reforged again!
Beitrag von: Fredius am 6. Apr 2016, 14:16
Heheh yeah I will continue Hoho's legacy [uglybunti].
Titel: Re: Carn Dum Reforged, reforged again!
Beitrag von: Darkayah am 9. Apr 2016, 13:28
I'm curious.  :)