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Titel: New formation for Spearmens
Beitrag von: Caronis am 27. Aug 2015, 00:49
Hey ! I had an idea while watching the Rohan charge on Pelennor fields ( (**) ) : why not make some "Line Formation" for Spearman ?

Line formation

The spearmans plants their feets on the ground, and take them spear. All riders that's charge the spearmans will be knocked back. Spearman cannot move when in this formation, and deals -80% of damage against other units, but can't be trampled and knock back the riders.
Titel: Re: New formation for Spearmens
Beitrag von: Gandalf The Gray am 27. Aug 2015, 04:02
nice idea and it should have a CD because its a lil bit op
Titel: Re: New formation for Spearmens
Beitrag von: Caronis am 27. Aug 2015, 09:40
CD = ? ^^

If you mean some weakness, i have no better idea that to "block" the ennemy in this formation for a while with a cooldown, to not spam the ability ^^

Maybe this formation should be avaiable only at level 5 ?
Titel: Re: New formation for Spearmens
Beitrag von: korner am 27. Aug 2015, 09:46
CD should mean cooldown  ;)

So you cannot switch line and normal every second.
Titel: Re: New formation for Spearmens
Beitrag von: Ealendril der Dunkle am 27. Aug 2015, 10:56
There cant be a Cooldown for formations, its not possible.
Titel: Re: New formation for Spearmens
Beitrag von: Caronis am 27. Aug 2015, 10:57
Ah ok... :/

So maybe give the ability to the higher levels will balance the formation ?
Titel: Re: New formation for Spearmens
Beitrag von: hoho96 am 31. Aug 2015, 09:16
Or better yet. Remember in bfme1 the pike formation used to actually make sense  (soldiers form together tightly and point their pike wall to face the enemy).
I think it had a 40% bonus to cave from the front. However this formation would make the unit 50% slower i believe  (easy pick for archers) and since they point only one way, they can be easily flanked.
I loved this formation a lot more than the porcupine nonsense from bfme2. Why the hell would you have a third of your unit facing the enemy, and the rest just chilling out facing backwards!
It also made it extremely hard for cavalry to be of any use as a flanking force if the player microed his pikes in time. Just press the button and voila you'll be facing everywhere^^
Did i mention that it looks way cooler to have an army of pikes in a pike wall formation? You know, Helmsdeep, the Pelennor,... a pike wall always gives the chills :D
Titel: Re: New formation for Spearmens
Beitrag von: Gnomi am 31. Aug 2015, 09:41
As far as I know this Bfme I formation caused problems and is sadly not possible like that in Bfme II.
Titel: Re: New formation for Spearmens
Beitrag von: hoho96 am 31. Aug 2015, 10:07
What a shame  :(
Maybe one there could be something working and interesting other than porcupine.
I wonder if ShieldWall formation can be of any use to a pike unit :/ i suppose the animations may glitch. But maybe it can be fixed? It may worth some experiments.
Titel: Re: New formation for Spearmens
Beitrag von: Gnomi am 31. Aug 2015, 10:10
We had already the experiments and it sadly wasn't possible. I'm personally also a big fan of the formation in Bfme I and would love to see it back, but as far as I remember the problem was always that they weren't able to move after the formation or the formation did no damage (similar to half trolls - knights just ran through them)