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Titel: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: lord_ellessar am 8. Dez 2015, 08:00
THE MAP IS DONE !!!

--> http://www.moddb.com/addons/the-old-fornost#downloadsform (http://www.moddb.com/addons/the-old-fornost#downloadsform)
Titel: Re: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: ThorinsNemesis am 8. Dez 2015, 11:24
Finally, finally, FINALLY!!!
I have wanted a War in the North Fornost map in Edain mod for so long, and I'm glad someone is gonna take up the challenge of doing it  xD.
I can't wait to see pics  ;).
Titel: Re: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: lord_ellessar am 8. Dez 2015, 11:34
I'm glad to see your enthusiasm ;) I post some pictures. Off course you can give me your suggestions ;)

(http://i.imgur.com/uDKUFS0.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/qV1xKHt.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/LudHb7Q.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/yLQnJTv.jpg)
Titel: Re: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: ThorinsNemesis am 8. Dez 2015, 15:32
Wow, it looks amazing; most of it captures the feel of Fornost's gate level in War in the North  :).
I have some suggestions though:
-It would look more like in the War in the North if you remove the trees from the citadel-part and make the citadel look more like this:
https://cdn1.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/000/715/113/large/rory-young-fornost-tower-01.jpg?1431418231
And add to the citadel building the tower from the War in the North that looks like Barad Dur: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-S0Keswz-1Jk/UduN2p1jNCI/AAAAAAAAAGY/1j5p1n4LxJw/s1600/Fornost14.jpg
As you can see in the far background of this picture, there are pine trees on the hills behind Fornost:  http://tolkiengateway.net/w/images/d/d6/The_Lord_of_the_Rings_War_in_the_North_-_Fornost.jpg
So maybe you can add those trees to the hills in your map? And also make some pine forests in front of the walls of Fornost, like in the picture (you can use the Iron Hills pine Tree from WorldBuilder?)
-You can add a bit more of these places:
https://cdn1.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/000/715/021/large/rory-young-fornost-ruins-06.jpg?1431416309
http://nlfw.stuffcorp.com/witn/fornost6.jpg
And also, add some iron spikes to the ruins of the citadel and around it, like in Witn.
These are just suggestions, though, I think the map will be better with them, but it is great already ;).
Titel: Re: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: lord_ellessar am 8. Dez 2015, 16:33
those spikes and buildings are from the gobelins i would do this map like a place of the rangers, but i could do a second one with gobelins influence :)

(http://i.imgur.com/R0bRpUD.jpg)
Titel: Re: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: ThorinsNemesis am 8. Dez 2015, 17:19
Oh I understand, but yeah it would be great if you did a second version with the goblin buildings and spikes, I hope it won't be too much  :).
Consider my other suggestions also  ;) And again, the map looks awesome anyway.
Titel: Re: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: lord_ellessar am 8. Dez 2015, 18:35
Thanks a lot it is really Nice to hear that ;)
Titel: Re: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: ThorinsNemesis am 8. Dez 2015, 21:07
^^Well I really like the map, and I'm sure others do too  :).
I'm patiently waiting for more progress pics on both the Ranger-influenced version and the Goblin-influenced version  ;).
Titel: Re: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: Adamin am 8. Dez 2015, 22:37
Looks nice so far. It's definetly an interesting alternative to the snowy BfMe Version. ^^

The amphitheater in the corner is a cool little detail from the BfMe Map though.
Titel: Re: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: lord_ellessar am 8. Dez 2015, 23:08
Thanks ^^ I'm trying to keep the basic map, I put an atmosphere more like in war in the north, I think that even if it was the witch king who destroyed the city, his influence won't be so strong and for a so long time :)
Titel: Re: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: lotr1997 am 8. Dez 2015, 23:13
Lord Ellasar this map is great! I love the Rhudaur map to. You are a really good map maker cant wait to play this one!
Titel: Re: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: ThorinsNemesis am 8. Dez 2015, 23:16
Actually one of the things I like about the War in the North Fornost is that the game emphasises on how the Witchking had his residence set up at Fornost, and so the metal spikes and the Black citadel tower are some leftover ruins from the Witchking's rule after he was driven out.  :)
Anyway, as I said, both versions look really great. And I agree, I can't wait to play the map (both versions  :P) ^^
Titel: Re: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: lord_ellessar am 8. Dez 2015, 23:24
^^ it is really nice to hear that ^^ ... I think i will make to alternative to this one, the first one; Fornost the ranger old stronghold, the second: Fornost; the gobelin base and finally the basic one where you can play every faction into the fortress,... :) I'm also working on hobbiton, Ost in Edhil, Carn Dum (snowy with the witch king influence), Rhunear (capital of Rhun), and some mission maps with the last alliance and Arnor (for those one I'm waiting for imladris and the iron crown), i also will make some others Arnor cities like Hoarwell or Annuminas, i project to make a map with bree and well those are the first :) if you have some interesting ideas i take :)

I'll try to end those one before the end of this holidays, I'll also work on Carn Dum directly when they give us angmar faction. :)

As you can see into my first map I'm using sometimes scripts or market place to take for exemple I will make farms, mines, fishing ports, ... That give you money when you take it... On this map when you are playing rangers you have directly some camps but to earn money you have to take some camps that give you money and you have to defend it :)
Titel: Re: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: lord_ellessar am 8. Dez 2015, 23:28
Actually one of the things I like about the War in the North Fornost is that the game emphasises on how the Witchking had his residence set up at Fornost, and so the metal spikes and the Black citadel tower are some leftover ruins from the Witchking's rule after he was driven out.  :)
Anyway, as I said, both versions look really great. And I agree, I can't wait to play the map (both versions  :P) ^^

Very very interesting point of vue indeed the witch king could make fornost as his own fortress, so I won't put the dark citadel at the same place of the actual citadel, maybe in place of the big building or something else :)
Titel: Re: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: ThorinsNemesis am 8. Dez 2015, 23:35
I had an idea about the Goblin-influenced citadel: maybe you can merge the regular Ranger and Goblin citadel by doing this: try placing the EttenmoorsGoblinFortress Tower (I think this was its name in WorldBuilder) in the middle of the big dome of the Fornost citadel (Ranger-influenced) and maybe some Mordor flags around it, and see how it turns out  ;).
Titel: Re: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: lord_ellessar am 8. Dez 2015, 23:38
I had an idea about the Goblin-influenced citadel: maybe you can merge the regular Ranger and Goblin citadel by doing this: try placing the EttenmoorsGoblinFortress Tower (I think this was its name in WorldBuilder) in the middle of the big dome of the Fornost citadel (Ranger-influenced) and maybe some Mordor flags around it, and see how it turns out  ;).
I'll try but I think it's more interesting to show the ranger citadel completely destroyed and the bad citadel into the high right quarter :)
Titel: Re: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: ThorinsNemesis am 8. Dez 2015, 23:44
Maybe you're right, but I still think it's more interesting if the Goblin citadel is combined with the Ranger citadel, it would look more interesting in my opinion at least, and it's basically the innermost and most secure part of the city, so...
But anyway, it's your decision, I'm just making suggestions  :).
Titel: Re: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: lord_ellessar am 8. Dez 2015, 23:47
Maybe you're right, but I still think it's more interesting if the Goblin citadel is combined with the Ranger citadel, it would look more interesting in my opinion at least, and it's basically the innermost and most secure part of the city, so...
But anyway, it's your decision, I'm just making suggestions  :).

And I'm happy with it I will make a test, if I don't know wich one I prefer, then you will be able to choose ;)
Titel: Re: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: lotr1997 am 9. Dez 2015, 00:04
Maybe you could make a revised Rivendell when Imladris comes out!
Titel: Re: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: lord_ellessar am 9. Dez 2015, 00:10
Maybe you could make a revised Rivendell when Imladris comes out!
I thought about, i wanted a snowy rivendell but i don't have enough snowy buildings for that :P
Titel: Re: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: lord_ellessar am 9. Dez 2015, 01:53
Better? ^^

(http://media.moddb.com/cache/images/members/3/2687/2686079/thumb_620x2000/alt.JPG)
Titel: Re: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: magickoala am 9. Dez 2015, 02:30
Looks brilliant  xD
Titel: Re: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: ThorinsNemesis am 9. Dez 2015, 07:17
Wow, just wow!  xD
That new Goblin citadel looks just fantastic!  :)
Titel: Re: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: lord_ellessar am 9. Dez 2015, 16:07
do you want more right now ? :D
Titel: Re: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: ThorinsNemesis am 9. Dez 2015, 16:32
Why not?  :D  [uglybunti]
Titel: Re: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: lord_ellessar am 9. Dez 2015, 16:35
then here you are :D

(http://i.imgur.com/KjWpd2r.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/L5jim4w.jpg)

As you can see I have done all of the left side, there, there is less ruins because for it was where lived the poor people of the city :)
Titel: Re: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: ThorinsNemesis am 9. Dez 2015, 18:15
As I have already said, brilliant work! The left/finished part looks great, and I can't wait to see how will the parts that are more filled with ruins look  ;).
Titel: Re: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: lord_ellessar am 10. Dez 2015, 00:01
Right now i've "finished", i just need someone to try it because I'm afraid that it is a little bit unbalanced :)
Send me a private message please, I need 2-3 players for the version with rangers :)
(I'm seeing it again and it fell miss something, I don't know what but... I need a joker :/ )
Titel: Re: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: Ealendril der Dunkle am 10. Dez 2015, 11:35
This map is very impressive, good job!
Titel: Re: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: lord_ellessar am 10. Dez 2015, 12:01
Thanks, a lot ^^
Titel: Re: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: lord_ellessar am 10. Dez 2015, 16:47
who are those guys fighting in the High Dungeon ? ^^

(http://i.imgur.com/TfM6BDz.png)
Titel: Re: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: ThorinsNemesis am 10. Dez 2015, 17:30
^^Wow, the Three main characters from the War in the North, fighting Agandaur in the highest citadel tower; I wish I hadn't forgotten their names  :D
I take it as a progress on the map is going well-pic, because I'm sure we will all like the map when it's finished :).
Titel: Re: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: lord_ellessar am 10. Dez 2015, 21:15
^^Wow, the Three main characters from the War in the North, fighting Agandaur in the highest citadel tower; I wish I hadn't forgotten their names  :D
I take it as a progress on the map is going well-pic, because I'm sure we will all like the map when it's finished :).
Good point it andriel, Farin and eradan :P
Yes, because I have finished the version with rangers camps I'm beginning this one :) but warning because when I will post it you won't have goblins into the fortress so I will put mordor orcs and isengard ourouks... When the misty mountains will be realise I will make an update where you will be able to play as the goblins into the ruins, before that, you will have one camp on a corner of the fortress and one outside and the center with orcs will be creeps :)
Titel: Re: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: ThorinsNemesis am 10. Dez 2015, 21:55
Awesome, can't wait for the Rangers version, and I'm eagerly waiting even more for the Goblins version  :).
Titel: Re: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: lord_ellessar am 10. Dez 2015, 22:06
Maybe you will be able to try it first because I have no asking to a beta tester :P
Titel: Re: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: ThorinsNemesis am 10. Dez 2015, 22:43
.... I'm still cursed, cus I won't have access to my computer until Christmas, it's still broken; I think it's time I get a new one  :(.
Titel: Re: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: calsash am 11. Dez 2015, 08:44
Looks awesome cant wait to be able to play it :D
Titel: Re: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: lord_ellessar am 11. Dez 2015, 11:41
Looks awesome cant wait to be able to play it :D
you can beta test it if you want ^^
Titel: Re: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: lord_ellessar am 11. Dez 2015, 16:14
some advances  xD

(http://i.imgur.com/iYb7926.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/2NWJvhE.jpg)
Titel: Re: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: ThorinsNemesis am 11. Dez 2015, 17:45
Looks awesome, that's all!  xD
Titel: Re: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: calsash am 11. Dez 2015, 20:58
Looks awesome cant wait to be able to play it :D
you can beta test it if you want ^^
I would absolutely love to :D
Titel: Re: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: ThorinsNemesis am 16. Dez 2015, 18:54
Hey lord_ellessar, since you uploaded the Ranger-influenced version of Fornost on ModDB, when are you going to upload the Goblin-influenced version?  :)
Titel: Re: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: lord_ellessar am 16. Dez 2015, 23:54
I didn't really know if I should post it when the goblins came or the earliest possible, :)
In the map you have some "bugs" due to the skin hidding, so i think i will wait the update with the gobellins :) sorry for that, I'm also working on a map with the iron hills and on the elven stronghold, the elven stronghold will have to wait the imladris update and carn Dum the angmar update, when angmar will be available I'll working on some mission maps where you defend Arnor ;) so the next map will probably be the iron hills then carn Dum and finally some mission maps :)
Titel: Re: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: ThorinsNemesis am 17. Dez 2015, 06:30
Ok, the Goblins will probably be released in or after the summer, so I can wait until then  ;).
And those maps you will be making sound interesting, especially the Iron Hills  :).
Titel: Re: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: lord_ellessar am 17. Dez 2015, 10:06
It's the more difficult for me because we don't have any dwarves house ^^
Titel: Re: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: DrHouse93 am 17. Dez 2015, 11:54
I must say I really like the Goblin-version of Fornost, except for one single thing: the textures of the keep. It's ok you want to show the wasteland and the corruption of the city after its fall, but I really don't like the textures you used, they look too monochrome, while in reality you would have different shades and degrees of barren rock and dirt terrain. Other than that, really impressive work, especially the custom buildings^^
Titel: Re: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: lord_ellessar am 17. Dez 2015, 12:11
thanks and thanks i will see if i can find some other colour ;)
Titel: Re: The old Fornost (ruin like in the game War in the North)
Beitrag von: -DJANGO- am 17. Dez 2015, 20:25
Nice Map. Kind of interesting to see Fornost not snowy  ;)