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Titel: Modifying the Edain mod
Beitrag von: Elfstone_2931 am 1. Aug 2016, 12:45
Hello everyone, I'm sorry to bother you all but I'm still having no succes with making changes to the Edain mod, as none of my changes will take effect. I've tried using the -mod command but that still launches the regular Edain mod with none of my changes, and I've attempted to follow all the advice in the previous posts, all to no avail. I've also deleted my virtual store to see if that would help but it didn't. If anyone out there could help me I'd be eternally grateful. :)
Titel: Re: Modifying the Edain mod
Beitrag von: Joragon am 3. Aug 2016, 09:53
Hi,
make sure that you modify the weapon.inc etc, because the Edain Team uses a lot inc files.
For example in the edain data file there is a commandset.ini file and a commandset.inc file.
Only if you modified the inc file it works.
With finalbig you can see in which folder they are.

Joragon
Titel: Re: Modifying the Edain mod
Beitrag von: Elfstone_2931 am 3. Aug 2016, 22:25
Hello, thank you very much for your response :) I've tried changing things in the weapon.inc file but that still doesn't have any effect either, even in the -mod shortcut, is there anything else I could be doing wrong?
Titel: Re: Modifying the Edain mod
Beitrag von: FG15 am 3. Aug 2016, 22:37
Where are you editing the bigs? If you edit them directly in the RotWk folder, it might happen, that the game creates a copy of the files in a hidden folder that will be read first.

The folder is Username\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files (x86)\Electronic Arts\The Lord of the Rings, The Rise of the Witch-king.
You can just delete everything inside the folder.
Titel: Re: Modifying the Edain mod
Beitrag von: Elfstone_2931 am 4. Aug 2016, 23:15
I'm currently attempting to edit the bigs in a new folder in my C drive, I did try initially to edit them directly in the ROTWK folder but extracted them to the new folder in an effort to make it work, and I did try delete my virtual store just recently, although I'm not at my computer at the moment so I can't check if I did it properly. It didn't let the changes take effect though when I did try delete though:/ thanks for the reply by the way:)
Titel: Re: Modifying the Edain mod
Beitrag von: Elfstone_2931 am 6. Aug 2016, 13:46
Hi again, I've tried deleting the virtual store and it's still not working, could the fact that I've got a back up for the Edain data file on this computer be causing the changes to not take effect in the same way the virtual store could have been?
Titel: Re: Modifying the Edain mod
Beitrag von: solteszbenjamin@gmail.com am 14. Okt 2017, 14:20
How can I change the command point limit , because the 3000 is to low to me ?
Titel: Re: Modifying the Edain mod
Beitrag von: Gnomi am 14. Okt 2017, 18:42
You can't do it in the inis. You have to open the libraries (don't know the name of the main library) with the worldbuilder. Then you find a folder in the scripts in which you'll find all the scripts for the game modes. Some of them already have the action "set command points to ??? maximum ???", just change that. For the others you have to add this line. (you'll find the action in Player->Command Points)
Titel: Re: Modifying the Edain mod
Beitrag von: solteszbenjamin@gmail.com am 15. Okt 2017, 02:33
I'm not good in editing , please try to explain to me it !(slowly )
Titel: Re: Modifying the Edain mod
Beitrag von: The_Necromancer0 am 15. Okt 2017, 10:11
Have a look at these tutorials, they should get you well on your way?
https://www.the3rdage.net/item-469?addview
https://www.the3rdage.net/item-93?addview
https://www.the3rdage.net/item-36?addview
Titel: Re: Modifying the Edain mod
Beitrag von: solteszbenjamin@gmail.com am 15. Okt 2017, 14:06
I don't  want to make a new custom map I just want to edit the mod !
Titel: Re: Modifying the Edain mod
Beitrag von: Gnomi am 15. Okt 2017, 14:13
I think I've already told you in the other topic :)
You need those basic scripting and mapping knowledge, as libraries are basically maps with scripts which are always loaded. Use FinalBig to open the edain data and extract the files (i think the libraries are in there, otherwise look through the toher edain files in your rotw folder), search for the correct library and open it. Then change the script which changes the command points. (you should be able to do it with the links above)
Titel: Re: Modifying the Edain mod
Beitrag von: solteszbenjamin@gmail.com am 15. Okt 2017, 14:25
What is the final big ?

Sorry that was a stupid question !  :D

So what will be need to do with that program ?

I try it out now and thx for the help !

Where can I find command points to edit them ?
Titel: Re: Modifying the Edain mod
Beitrag von: Gnomi am 15. Okt 2017, 15:02
Please don't use double posts. You can edit your previous comments.
FinalBig is a program to open and edit big-files.
You need to open the edain files and extract the libraries, change the libraries (for the command points) as written above and afterwards integrate them again in the big-files with finalbig.
Titel: Re: Modifying the Edain mod
Beitrag von: solteszbenjamin@gmail.com am 15. Okt 2017, 15:25
I did these things :
extract edain.big
find my game data file in data folder (gamedata.ini)
change what I want
finally add these folder to my edain data whitch was extracted
and put it into my game folder !

BUT it did't work !

Please help me !
Titel: Re: Modifying the Edain mod
Beitrag von: Gnomi am 15. Okt 2017, 15:49
As I said above:
You have to change the scripts in the libraries, not the gamedata. The CP line in the gamedata does nothing.
Titel: Re: Modifying the Edain mod
Beitrag von: solteszbenjamin@gmail.com am 15. Okt 2017, 15:55
Whitch scripts change command point ?

I need to change what in the sripts , because I did't find command point ?

Whitch that what  I need to open with wordbuilder , because there  are 2 file 1TGA and 1 MAP file !
Titel: Re: Modifying the Edain mod
Beitrag von: Gnomi am 15. Okt 2017, 16:12
As said above, you have to get the libraries. You'll probably find them in the edain_maps.big (if not, then edain_data, but I don't think it). Search for any file something like "Spieler" or "Player" in the name. (spieler is german for player) Nearly all others should have something with KI (german for Ai) in the name. Open it with the worldbuilder, open the scripts of the map and search for something like "Start" or "Begin" and then look for epic. This script should have an action, which is called "Set command points to 3000, maximum 18.000" or something like that. Change that and then overwrite the old file in the big with your changed file.
I haven't opened this files for a long time (someone else is responsible for them), but this will change the commandpoints of the epic battle mode.
Titel: Re: Modifying the Edain mod
Beitrag von: Gnomi am 15. Okt 2017, 16:33
The map looks the same, because it's just a grey map, but it has scripts. Just open the script window.
Titel: Re: Modifying the Edain mod
Beitrag von: solteszbenjamin@gmail.com am 15. Okt 2017, 16:35
Scripts are empty  !  :(
What shall I do ?
Titel: Re: Modifying the Edain mod
Beitrag von: Gnomi am 15. Okt 2017, 17:02
Then you probably didn't open the map. What's written on the top left of your worldbuilder? Mission or Spieler?
Do you have a symbol in the path to the map, which is not a-z or 0-9? (like an ä or something similar in your username of windows) This would cause such a problem.
Titel: Re: Modifying the Edain mod
Beitrag von: solteszbenjamin@gmail.com am 15. Okt 2017, 17:11
spieler at the left corner  [uglybunti]

scripts in the edit menu ? if the answer is yes , i did it (checking)
Titel: Re: Modifying the Edain mod
Beitrag von: Gnomi am 15. Okt 2017, 18:31
Can you upload a screenshot of your script menu?
Titel: Re: Modifying the Edain mod
Beitrag von: solteszbenjamin@gmail.com am 15. Okt 2017, 19:39
How can I make that ?
Titel: Re: Modifying the Edain mod
Beitrag von: Gnomi am 15. Okt 2017, 19:53
Make a screenshot, upload it on any image upload page (just google for it) and then copy the given link here.
Titel: Re: Modifying the Edain mod
Beitrag von: solteszbenjamin@gmail.com am 15. Okt 2017, 20:20
what is your e- mail

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B6pfU3kJF9C6LUhXVHlKSmthWDA

2 photo !
Titel: Re: Modifying the Edain mod
Beitrag von: Gnomi am 15. Okt 2017, 20:30
You don't need my mail.
If that's your script folder, you haven't opened the map. Probably because of the reason above (not allowed characters in the path)
Titel: Re: Modifying the Edain mod
Beitrag von: solteszbenjamin@gmail.com am 15. Okt 2017, 20:31
what shall i do now ?

I just reinstall my pc game , but i still doesn't work to me !

Can you do it for me  on your pc ?

I beg to you , because I just want to play with this mod (with 99999 starting command point in epic mod  for all side pc and human )
Titel: Re: Modifying the Edain mod
Beitrag von: Gnomi am 15. Okt 2017, 21:18
As said: Probably your username has a special symbol in it. What's your username on windows?
Titel: Re: Modifying the Edain mod
Beitrag von: solteszbenjamin@gmail.com am 15. Okt 2017, 21:19
How can I change it ?
Titel: Re: Modifying the Edain mod
Beitrag von: Gnomi am 15. Okt 2017, 21:41
Okay... what's the  the path to the file?
F.e. it could be something like C:\Users\Username\Desktop\libraries if you have extracted it on your Desktop
Titel: Re: Modifying the Edain mod
Beitrag von: solteszbenjamin@gmail.com am 15. Okt 2017, 21:42
YES !  Hurr√°   :D :D :D :D :D :D

 xD xD xD xD

I see the scripts , the username was the problem !
Titel: Re: Modifying the Edain mod
Beitrag von: Gnomi am 15. Okt 2017, 21:57
So everything works fine now?
Titel: Re: Modifying the Edain mod
Beitrag von: solteszbenjamin@gmail.com am 15. Okt 2017, 21:58
YES , my username was the problem , what shall I do in sripts ?

It change the command points of the ai ?  [uglybunti]

EDIT: I did it , thank you so much my friend !  xD
Titel: Re: Modifying the Edain mod
Beitrag von: solteszbenjamin@gmail.com am 21. Okt 2017, 19:12
I can't find the isengard ( edain map ) , can anyone help me  out ?