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Gandalf The Gray:
man i was thinking edain is hobbit time and lotr so in hobbit time its ok to summon the white council it will be fun.

Walküre:
Today I had the opportunity to examine again some lore significant elements about the Golden Wood and Galadriel, by reading again some passages of the chapter 'The Mirror of Galadriel'  :)

I have to say that I'm always amazed by the usage of Tolkien of words, there are often long descriptions of characters or places, but he also often wisely uses simple and sort of 'chosen' words, that have a rich and fundamental meanings, and many hermetical/hidden references.

These are the passages, exact words of Tolkien  8-)


--- Zitat ---‘I know what it was that you last saw,’ she said; ‘for that is
also in my mind. Do not be afraid! But do not think that only
by singing amid the trees, nor even by the slender arrows
of elven-bows, is this land of Lothlo´rien maintained and
defended against its Enemy. I say to you, Frodo, that even
as I speak to you, I perceive the Dark Lord and know his
mind, or all of his mind that concerns the Elves. And he
gropes ever to see me and my thought. But still the door is
closed!’

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--- Zitat ---‘Yes,’ she said, divining his thought, ‘it is not permitted to
speak of it, and Elrond could not do so. But it cannot be
hidden from the Ring-bearer, and one who has seen the Eye.
Verily it is in the land of Lo´rien upon the finger of Galadriel
that one of the Three remains. This is Nenya, the Ring of
Adamant, and I am its keeper.
‘He suspects, but he does not know – not yet.
--- Ende Zitat ---

Ok, now a simple analysis and final conclusions  ;)

This is something I always mentioned in my walls of text, always referring to these passages, but now there is the final and direct proof!
Galadriel mentions her 'telepathic' fights with Sauron from afar (something that also Haldir says), and she also confirms that she always wins, really symbolising her status as the leader and guardian of all the Elves in Middle Earth.
But, most importantly, she also confirms that the courage, the chants and the bows of the brave people of the Golden Wood (the units, in the game) are not enough to fend off the Evil from her realm, and then she admits that Nenya (and her Magic) is the primary Power that sustains and protects the Bliss of the Golden Wood, preserving its timeless enchantment and its military defence.

Nenya has already been made by the Edain Team as the ultimate and most important ability/power of Galadriel.
But I think it's necessary and very lore accurate and characteristic, given these facts, extending the effect of Nenya also on the surrounding structures, becoming finally a mean to protect all the realm/faction of Lothlórien (UNITS and STRUCTURES).


Now another passage  :)


--- Zitat ---She lifted up her white arms, and spread out her hands
towards the East in a gesture of rejection and denial. Ea¨rendil,
the Evening Star, most beloved of the Elves, shone clear
above.
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Eärendil is the father of Elrond, but he's also importantly related to Galadriel and her realm, since the hair of Galadriel radiates the Holy Light of Laurelin (of which the Light of Eärendil is still a fraction) and Galadriel herself captures the Light of the Star in her phial, the most significant of her Gifts to the Fellowship.
The pivotal fact is that, in this passage, it represents the Good that protects and blesses the Golden Wood (via Galadriel), opposed to the Darkness in the East (Dol Guldur and Mordor); it would be really significative, then, adding this element (Light of Eärendil) in the Spellbook of Lothlórien, instead of the too general vanilla Sunflare.
Eärendil also symbolises the Might and the Splendour of the Elves in the Elder Days, as also the Last Alliance power of Rivendell symbolises the ancient Power of the Noldor in the Second Age.
The two elven factions, then, will have two ultimate powers that refer to the ancient and almost forgotten days of Splendour of the Eldar  8-)


It seems to me that they are very reasonable proposals, that have their roots on the pure lore, rather than on the cinematographic adaptations  :P

Tienety:

--- Zitat von: DieWalküre am 24. Jul 2015, 19:12 ---
--- Zitat von: TiberiusOgden am 24. Jul 2015, 18:52 ---
--- Zitat von: DieWalküre am 24. Jul 2015, 18:44 ---What do you think about the difference between the two styles?

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Honestly - new fortress reminds me design from Rivendell. 8-| Also "bridge" on the top is strange.
But overall - I really love everything from the fortress and everything around (and heroes/units inside). :)

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I had the similar impression, Rivendell structures placed on trees  :)

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I agree. I think that Lorien need their own designs, especially for roofs.
maybe Lorien fortress could looks better with these roofs:


--- Zitat von: DieWalküre am 24. Jul 2015, 20:10 ---About the aggressive or defensive mode, Tienety once made on the EIC an interesting proposal about Thranduil's stances that Ealendril appreciated.
This proposal was also one of the few official concept proposals of the EIC  :)

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Yes, this one of my ideas. 8-)
If Ea say something like: "I like this idea." It is a good chance that this idea will be integrated into the mod.  :D

Fine:
I like the current (4.0 beta) look of the Lórien buildings. Give them a try once you can experience them in-game and not just on screenshots :)
No need for a hasty change in my opinion. Why change things you have not even really tried out yet?

Sir_Stig:
How does one become a beta tester?

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