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The AI in Edain 4.0

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Elite KryPtik:
Just finished the matchup, beat it first try. I don't want to sound like a smartass or a show off, but there is nothing difficult about this matchup. So here's my BO, I was playing with starting resources of 1k and no custom heroes, I started on the top of the map, left camp, he was bottom of the map, right camp. I did an eco start, claiming all of the nearby settlements and putting slaughterhouses on them, except for the 1 in front which is guarded by goblins. Then I made a single Tribute Camp, and upgraded all of my Slaughterhouses and my Tribute Camp with production 1. Then I made 4 sentry towers, 2 more Tribute Camps, an Orc Pit, 2 more towers and 2 more Orc Pits, and started my spam. I hadn't seen Isengard at this point, so I maxed my CP with orcs and built Gorbag, and took out the Goblins in front, claiming the settlement as a Slaughterhouse. Now I upgraded the 2 Slaughterhouses nearest my base with production 2, and gave the rest arrow towers, and upgraded all the Tribute Camps in my base with command points 2. I gave the slaughterhouse which was by the Goblin Cave in front double defence measures. I kept Shagrat back and started guarding all my buildings with Uruks. About this time I made it to the center, where all the Wargs are, and this is the point when Isengard showed up. His army had all of his heroes, and was fully upgraded. At this point I had thankfully already claimed the other camp on my side of the map, and had 5 orc pits pumping out free orcs, as well as a Troll Cage making Trolls that cost only 600, otherwise he would have killed me here. His first push swept my army away like dust, and went straight into my first camp. But the towers killed him along with the Orc Spam, and after this he never came back. Once I had the 2 outposts claimed and had all my heroes, plus the Spellbook power Darkness, game was basically over. It also fully convinced me that Mordor is MASSIVELY OP, nothing can stand up to their early game free orc spam and late game OP heroes, not even Isengard's mighty armies. The only thing that stands a chance against them are the cavalry of the Rohirrim, also my favorite faction. Try out this BO, don't let the Brutal claim a victory over you!

Kraen:
I am playing Isengard, and I cannot win on map Nurn against 2 Brutal AIs. Too many units.

Anyway, the problem of AI is that it cannot deal with certain situations. For example, afaik, Ai just wont send one big army, they are sending unit by unit, and its much easier to deal with that.
Another problems are towers and walls in general. AI just cannot handle it, because they are not building enough siege weapons. And if they are, they are not using them properly.
AI soldiers are very often trying to "run through" your soldiers without fighting to attack buildings, and its very easy to kill them without any casualities.
When you have a castle and close the gate, AI is helpless and just standing in front of a gate, waiting to be slaughtered by archers and towers.

Once you build 3 - 4 groups of fully upgraded archers, you won the game. AI is just throwing units on them and archers with flaming arrows are very OP - they kill everything including giants on one second.

As I said, mod Elven Alliance Community Edition has great AI. Not wise, but it has so many recources and is so aggresive that it is actually hard to beat, especially when you are fighting 2+.

Maybe it may serve as inspiration.

Sir_Stig:
Try a 4k start, Isengard with 4k upgrades real quick. to be honest I rarely play with 1k, although maybe my build order needs work.

Elite KryPtik:
I don't play with 4k on this because the style is BFME1, which was always a 1k start. But I have already played 4k epic battles against brutals and beaten them, so I don't think it would change much, I would just have more orc pits faster  :) But each to their own, all I can say is that with a 1k start, the AI is certainly not overpowered, and is often too stupid to have a chance at winning. Also on 8 player maps I would normally play with 7 AI in a FFA or 2v2v2v2, the money advantage Brutal AI gets is a serious setback when you play on a map with extra castles.

Sir_Stig:
I'll have to try a 1k start, or maybe 2k

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