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CragLord:
And again korner "boy" have found his way to eng part of forum to express his feelings, especially about dwarves.  :D


--- Zitat ---I´d rather see some more content of the real storyline from the books, more character development of the dwarves etc. instead of even more totally crazy and unrealistic battle scenes which deny the exist of physics in Middle Earth
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Ahhhhhhhhhh. Please man, be more realistic in imaginary world...
What do you expected from PJ, to adapt this children book in some boring binar movie?
Characters development, I agree about that.

P.S. I am pretty sure that eng part of community simple adore you.
Cheers.

korner:
@ Walküre:
You got a point in that.

But all the people you mention are some kind of supernatural characters. That´s ok for me.

But if someone "normal" (dwarves don´t have magic powers...) constructs a machine, this machine should be "realistic" and according to physics.

Trebuchets in Minas Tirith - works
Grond - works
Sarumans Ballistas - works

But this?? Come on...

Couldn´t the dwarves simply lift their shields and the arrows don´t hit their target? Does it need something like this?

Same like Legolas climbing falling rocks etc. The Hobbit movies simply exaggerate action scenes completely. Especially compared to the LotR movies.
Why doesn´t Legolas fly a bat from Imladris to Mount Doom dropping the ring?
Why is crossing the bridge of Khazad Dum a problem if you have skills like this?



--- Zitat von: CragLord am 27. Aug 2015, 00:33 ---And again korner "boy" have found his way to eng part of forum to express his feelings, especially about dwarves.  :D


--- Zitat ---I´d rather see some more content of the real storyline from the books, more character development of the dwarves etc. instead of even more totally crazy and unrealistic battle scenes which deny the exist of physics in Middle Earth
--- Ende Zitat ---

Ahhhhhhhhhh. Please man, be more realistic in imaginary world...
What do you expected from PJ, to adapt this children book in some boring binar movie?
Characters development, I agree about that.

P.S. I am pretty sure that eng part of community simple adore you.
Cheers.

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Chill man. This board is for open discussion, which means you have to accept other users have different opinion to yours.

You always blame me for being rude, but if you analyze the matter correctly, it´s not me but you being rude.
I don´t call others who are severeal years older than me "boys", and besides that I´m active in this forum a while longer then you.

Besides that: I´m a huge dwarves fan, I just don´t like what PJ made out of this movie.

Walküre:

--- Zitat von: korner am 27. Aug 2015, 00:40 ---You got a point in that.
But all the people you mention are some kind of supernatural characters. That´s ok for me.

But if someone "normal" (dwarves don´t have magic powers...) constructs a machine, this machine should be "realistic" and according to physics.


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How are those ballistas not working properly or against the law of Physics?
As LordDainIronfoot has previously written, they must have a sort of anti-arrows net attached to each projectile.
I instead find it a smart and useful way to counter the Wood Elves of Mirkwood, considering how they generally fight, relying on bows and arrows.

It was a very intelligent and strategic idea of Dáin, I honestly have to reckon  :)

korner:

--- Zitat von: DieWalküre am 27. Aug 2015, 00:47 ---
--- Zitat von: korner am 27. Aug 2015, 00:40 ---You got a point in that.
But all the people you mention are some kind of supernatural characters. That´s ok for me.

But if someone "normal" (dwarves don´t have magic powers...) constructs a machine, this machine should be "realistic" and according to physics.


--- Ende Zitat ---

How are those ballistas not working properly or against the law of Physics?
As LordDainIronfoot has previously written, they must have a sort of anti-arrows net attached to each projectile.
I instead find it a smart and useful way to counter the Wood Elves of Mirkwood, considering how they generally fight, relying on bows and arrows.

It was a very intelligent and strategic idea of Dáin, I honestly have to reckon  :)

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because the rotating blades or net would
- cause a huge air resistance
- cause a momentum against direction of move
which simply would lead to slowing down the projectile and make it drop after some metres.

The main thing about all that (for me) is the differences to the Lord of the Rings trilogy. In that movies nearly everything (besides supernatural creatures like Sauron, Gandalf etc.) was "realistic":
- a Mumakil cannot fly without wings
- a troll cannot jump 100 metres high
- someone who falls down a high wall dies

While in the Hobbit movies there are far too much "unrealistic" things (ballista projectiles, suicide trolls, wyrms, nearly every second Legolas move ...) that do not fit to the Middle Earth presented by the LotR trilogy.

My problem is not the action in the Hobbit. My problem is the action in the Hobbit compared to the one in the LotR. It just does not fit together, and it´s still the same world.

Gandalf The Gray:
well spoken walk ;)

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