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LordDainIronfoot:
The fortress wasn't just build by Sauron when he returned as Necromancer,it was the Capital of Greenwood the Great under Oropher ,Thranduil's father! So it was basically Elven and I really don't like the idea about Gondor,you see Minas Morgul was originally Gondorian as well as Isengard ,its too much to count Dol Guldur too ,it's like only Gondor build fortress and whenever they want to and then abandon then for the evil or someone else to use just like that! :-)

Fine:
I don't think Dol Guldur is of gondorian origin, since the hill of Amon Lanc was once home to the Elves of the Woodland Realm ruled by Oropher, as Dáin correctly pointed out. So if there were any existing ruins there when Sauron first took dominion of Dol Guldur around 1000 TA they would have been of elven origin.

Walküre:
Dáin, it's not that Gondor abandoned those places, it's because this realm has always been quite overburdened with serious challenges and threats to its very existence  :)

Minas Ithil was violently attacked and had its nature horribly twisted by Magic; Orthanc was gently left to Saruman's care.

I don't know why, but I always feel very empathetic to Gondor's struggles  ;)

LordDainIronfoot:

--- Zitat von: Fine am 27. Jan 2016, 14:12 ---I don't think Dol Guldur is of gondorian origin, since the hill of Amon Lanc was once home to the Elves of the Woodland Realm ruled by Oropher, as Dáin correctly pointed out. So if there were any existing ruins there when Sauron first took dominion of Dol Guldur around 1000 TA they would have been of elven origin.

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It is absolutely not!It is just Movie Lore of PJ and WETA! :-)

Walkure my.friend I am well aware of that! But still it is too much to give Gondorian heritage of every Fortress out there! :-) That's all I mean,and DG is definitely not a good choice tobe said as Gondorian origin!

Walküre:

--- Zitat von: LordDainIronfoot am 27. Jan 2016, 14:20 ---Walkure my.friend I am well aware of that! But still it is too much to give Gondorian heritage of every Fortress out there! :-) That's all I mean,and DG is definitely not a good choice tobe said as Gondorian origin!


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I didn't take part in the Dol Guldur debate.
I was just defending a bit Gondor's pride  :D

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