[en] The Prancing Pony > The Lord of the Rings

The Hobbit Trilogy

<< < (66/71) > >>

hoho96:
Alright, here's my opinion about the Black Speech in the movies;
As said before, Sauron created the Black Speech as a language for all evil. However the Orcs (from north of Angmar to the south of Mordor) NEVER really grasped that language. The Orcs had many many different tribes and local languages and dialects which made it impossible for them to commun in something as complicated as the Black Speech (complicated because it's believed to be derived from Elvish). That's why MOST Orcs in the vast armies of Mordor, and caves of the Misty Mountains actually used the common tongue because it presented a simple easy language that has been in use in Middle Earth for thousands of years.

That's canon, and it's not negotiable!  [ugly]

Anyway, from a movie critic point of view, I'm OK with Azong talking Black Speech. But why would he talk black speech to the dwarves!!! I've never EVER heard that Black Speech is now the new trend and all of middle earth understand it!!
I was really annoyed when Azog speaks to Thorin in Black Speech (or Orcish speech or whatever) and somehow Thorin understands him  :-|
There's some black magic definitely at work...

lord_ellessar:
Am I alone to dislike the look of Radagast? Same for Bombur, the missing moustache of Balin (less now than before) the to human style of Fili and Kili, the beard of dori and the to little pig of Dain  :(

Walküre:

--- Zitat von: lord_ellessar am 16. Mär 2016, 14:16 ---Am I alone to dislike the look of Radagast? Same for Bombur, the missing moustache of Balin (less now than before) the to human style of Fili and Kili, the beard of dori and the to little pig of Dain  :(

--- Ende Zitat ---

I think the appearance (and general concept) of Radagast, Bombur and Kíli were totally – or mainly – conceived by the writers themselves, specifically to satisfy precise scripting demands (the romance with Tauriel, for example).

Radagast and Bombur were designed also for evident comedy reasons.

lord_ellessar:

--- Zitat von: DieWalküre am 16. Mär 2016, 14:36 ---Radagast and Bombur were designed also for evident comedy reasons.

--- Ende Zitat ---

And then, is it à good thing, make comedy éléments for the hobbits ? :/

Walküre:
Not pure comedy, obviously, but some farcical and grotesque elements here and there, in order (as they said) to adapt better to the child-like tone of the Hobbit (the book).
Even though, in my opinion, they later contradicted themselves by somehow aiming to reach the same majestic tone of LOTR.

Nevertheless, comedy elements are not necessarily negative, since the LOTR trilogy had too some of them during specific and contained moments of the narration.
You can look at the previous pages of this thread, if you are interested; we largely dealt with these grotesque traits in precedent posts  :)

Navigation

[0] Themen-Index

[#] Nächste Seite

[*] Vorherige Sete