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Imladris' Ring Hero

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TiberiusOgden:
What about wait for Imladris release? xD
By the way Glorfindel was ring hero in the previous version and reasons, why he is gone, explained user DieWalkure above.

Darkslayer:

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The One Ring would be the reason he is brought back, Eru or the Valar (whoever sent Glorfindel) would be the one(s) to actually send Gil-galad back, which could have happened.   :)

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No, actually  :)

Every 'what if' situation of all the other factions is based essentially on 'real' possibilities, though very strange and improbable.
Because Gandalf, Théoden, Saruman (and the other ring heroes) really had the possibility (even if it was really slight) to achieve the One Ring.

The Valar, after the War of Wrath, decided not to intervene anymore in the World, fearing other possible destructions.
They, then, 'only' sent the Wizards to guide the Free People of Middle Earth and Glorfindel, as a really unexpected exception, because every Elf who lives or was reborn in Valinor can't return to Middle Earth; this is an absolute rule of Valinor, there is thus no possibility or any space for 'what if' situations in the first place.
Not to mention that we don't know if Gil-galad was actually ever reborn in Valinor or he is still mourning in the Halls of Mandos as a spirit.

Gil-galad has his reasons in being implemented through the Last Alliance spell, along with his allies of Arnor and Gondor; this is an unique and characteristic spell of Rivendell that refers to the Second Age.
The One Ring can't bring anyone back from Valinor, since the power of the Valar is far beyond it.

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Thank you for your explanation. It makes a lot of sense.  :)

Walküre:

--- Zitat von: Darkslayer am 23. Aug 2015, 19:04 ---Thank you for your explanation. It makes a lot of sense.  :)


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You're welcome  :)

Even if Gil-galad (your favourite hero, I assume) won't be the Ring Hero of Rivendell, he will still be playable via the Last Alliance spell, a more appropriate and honourable place for him, I guess.

VectorMaximus:
My personal vote goes for Celebrimbor. While the Shadow of Mordor game is not canonical obviously, and the fact that Celebrimbor is a spirit barred from the undying lands more so; Sauron would not have the might, nor the Valar reason to bar him, since his only sin was being deceived, something Sauron has done to plenty of people over the years(can anyone say Numenor?), at least he had good intentions in his failings, and he did save the 3. The game doesn't detract from the lore that much though, and for game enjoyment and balance I believe it's okay to bend the lore to an extent(as in this case). Also, it seems to me that there is no person in the Rivendell faction as is that would wield the One, whereas in both the base SOM game and the Silver Lord expansion Celebrimbor is shown to be able to wield the One with startling power and skill, and desires it to an extent. The One ring could allow the Rivendell faction at the fortress to perform a variant of the ritual that summons him in the game, but without the blood sacrifice. Also we could have epic quotes from the game!

Sending it the west is not possible for the above reasons described. While the fellowship idea has some merit, I feel it is not fair to the Imladris player to not have a ring-hero (perhaps if the fellowship were to succeed you would get all their members as permanent heroes? Maybe too OP).

...or we could give it to Gildor. See how that works out. :D

Walküre:
As you can see, I already gave my opinion about Celebrimbor, as absolutely not suitable to be a Ring Hero.
I personally think that his soul finally managed to reach Aman, though it is not clear if he could be ever forgiven and granted again the ownership of his own physical body, out from the Halls of Mandos  :)
Also, I believe it would be a bit degrading if Celebrimbor were brought back to life by the very evil tool that caused terrible sorrows to the Elves.

Rivendell will definitely have its own Ring's mechanics; just, I think it will be something beyond the 'common logic' of powerful Ring Heroes  ;)

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