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Imladris' Ring Hero

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VectorMaximus:
Perhaps if you captured the one ring as Imladris, you could take it to the forge and have the Noldorin Forge-masters discover its secrets, slowly increasing the strength of either your heroes or units over time as they uncover more secrets of it. Eventually, after a time the smiths would learn enough to unmake it (IE, no more bonuses). It's said that a powerful smith on par with Sauron (such as Feanor) would have been able to unmake the ring, but all such smiths in the 3rd age live in Valinor. The techniques of the rings themselves aren't evil - the will of Sauron in them is, because the same techniques made the 3. And the 3 are some of the most powerful tools of the Elves in the 3rd age, with no sign of corruption to their wearers.

But as has been said, I personally believe the Rivendell faction needs a major bonus to their faction in general when they get the one, otherwise they lose out on the power spike other factions get from their ring-hero. That's if they don't have a ring-hero, obviously.

And before I'm corrected, I'm well aware that even a team of master-smiths in the 3rd age couldn't unmake the one as I am suggesting. I'm just throwing out ideas (and as I said earlier, while generally speaking the lore should be adhered to, in some cases its okay to bend it for gameplay purposes).

Walküre:
Yes, it's necessarily needed bending a bit the lore to fit the primary gameplay rules.
Nevertheless, it's also true that you have to find valuable lore premises to move around 'what if' situations of this kind; something that could have happened in lore (though never really happened in the canon, of course) without contradicting it, as a sort of pure speculation.

For example, you realised yourself that your proposal about blacksmiths couldn't be taken into consideration, because Tolkien himself assures us that no one of the same skills and knowledge of Fëanor will ever walk on Arda again.

The 'core issue' behind this whole suggestion is basically the really contradictory conflict between the nature/essence of Rivendell and the very will of using the One Ring.
Any speculation would thus be too much problematic, more than the other factions' Ring's mechanics.
So, yes, I'm sure that waiting will be eventually rewarded.

If you want to continue the discussion and gather further thoughts, you are obviously more than welcome  :)
I will be happy to 'correct' you, then, if it's necessary  :D

Linhir:
Maybe ring hero could be just good ol' Tom? Elrond can't find any suitable man to give him ring and send with mission to destroy, so he decide hide it. In secret he send for Tom Bombadil and passes ring to him.

Walküre:

--- Zitat von: Linhir am 16. Feb 2016, 03:31 ---Maybe ring hero could be just good ol' Tom? Elrond can't find any suitable man to give him ring and send with mission to destroy, so he decide hide it. In secret he send for Tom Bombadil and passes ring to him.


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Not only does the One Ring have no effect on Tom Bombadil, but also, given that I personally consider him a Maia (and other people something even more powerful), it wouldn't expand his powers anyway.

As Gandalf says during the Council of Elrond, Tom Bombadil is not a trustworthy person for this task, for he might just lose or simply forget the One Ring by accident  :)

Saeros:
What if Cirdan wants the ring?
He gave his ring Narya to Gandalf as he thought that the wizard would keep it better than he would, but as the years pass the power of the Gray Havens is decreasing, so he starts making plans on how he could ask Narya back, but the chance appears to lay his hands in an even more powerful relic that whould allow his lands to flourish and rise above the mediocrity that is tormenting the Elves of the Third Age.
So he proposes to take the One for safe keeping but by holding it his soul becomes more and more corrupted and thus after a small amount of (game) time he becomes Cirdan the Shadow Elf (or something like that) and has new powers that while they give certain buffs to the units and buildings around him, at the same time they have a drawback.
Also his fighting skills are improved by far, but he looses armor or HP.

I must propose Glorfindel as the ring- hero too, but I suppose Cirdan is more suitable since he has never been in Valinor, he gave his ring willingly but with all the "ifs" I read above i suppose that this small story I wrote could happen taking under consideration the power of the One Ring and its ability to dominate even on the purest of souls.

Also I understand that this idea came a little too late probably but I wanted to make this proposal, lastly I never played the mod before the BFME1 building system was introduced (mainly because I thought BFME2 was an ultimate disappointment), so I don't know the heroes and the gameplay of Imladris, so I don't know if Cirdan is in the faction but I think that he should be as he was Gil- Galad's lieutenant and if I'm  not mistaken Lindon was Noldor lands..

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