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Gandalf (Arnor)

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Walküre:
Yes, this proposal is to certainly open another discussion in the Narya-related thread and I'm looking forward to it. Take all the time you need. I will also update the starting post of the very thread. We need advertise the concept in much better ways.

AulëTheSmith:

--- Zitat von: Walküre am 16. Jan 2018, 02:33 ---Yes, this proposal is to certainly open another discussion in the Narya-related thread and I'm looking forward to it. Take all the time you need. I will also update the starting post of the very thread. We need advertise the concept in much better ways.

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I updated the main post :). Also i think about two things: usually Gandalf holds his staff with left hand. Both animations of Sarumans and cah are based on right hand. So i don't know if we can recover some old animation of Gandalf (Gandalf's blast is left-handed), it could finally result wierd.
Unless it's easy to mirror the movements, but i don't think so. It could require a lot of work. It's a pity  :(

Another thing, would this version of Gandalf has the same price of 3000 resources or should we consider to lower it to 2500?

Walküre:
Another option would consist of a simple overhaul of the sword. That is, Glamdring is to be superseded and the wizard will get a new blade, whose concept we may discuss here without any problem. This would spare us the need for another set of animations, which is the toughest aspect of the proposal. What do you think?

No, I still believe that Gandalf is well worth his 3000 resources ;)

AulëTheSmith:

--- Zitat von: Walküre am 18. Jan 2018, 02:38 ---Another option would consist of a simple overhaul of the sword. That is, Glamdring is to be superseded and the wizard will get a new blade, whose concept we may discuss here without any problem. This would spare us the need for another set of animations, which is the toughest aspect of the proposal. What do you think?

No, I still believe that Gandalf is well worth his 3000 resources ;)

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Despite it is a pity to renounce to "staff mode", I agree we should definely consider the way of alternative sword. Especially because it would require far less time and work. Also if we choose Saruman or whatever staff animation it would mean to renounce to some cool animation of Gandalf, because of technical reason we just said. Reversing the movement from left to right (because Gandalf holds Glamdring on right hand and staff on left, and all his animation are based on this positions), would mean a huge work I'm quite sure.
So yes, let's start the seeking of an alternative sword, any idea you have you can post it here, everyone is welcome :)

EDIT: Just as a start, what are we looking for? a standard (simpler) model to underline that Glamdring is more important? An example (don't take the engravings in consideration):



Walküre:
Aye, I would prefer a simple design, just like Glamdring (it's the best typology of Elven swords that I like and it just resembles the canonical shape of European swords, wielded high by knights or saints combating evil demons). And I would also have this past blade remain an Elven blade of the kind I mentioned above. Without the typical curves or other spike-shaped elements. Only, we should also try to differentiate it from Gandalf's regular sword too. So, I thought we should go for a different hilt; the very shape is to remain simple and just classic, with the only exception of the haft. Or, even better, the blade and the haft could be fused together into a single sword, as most of the weapons in Ancient Greece. Regarding the colour, I would suggest the typical steel-like tone or even pure white; I deem it wise to have the sword be made of silver. In line with tons of examples in literature, this metal has the peculiar power to suppress anything evil and harm it.




Then, my gentle attendees of the thread, I think I may have come up with a decent background story for the said sword, in order to endow it with a proper essence; this is the case for many items in Tolkien's writings. We must live up to the tradition. Concerning the story, what if the blade were too a gift from Círdan. Not only did he give the wizard the Ring of Fire, but also something that would be of much avail in his perilous journey. Círdan had foreseen all the tribulations that Gandalf would have to face and therefore decided to offer him a secondary object of relevant note. The Guardian of the Havens see further than anyone else in Middle-earth and knows that the hands of the wizard shall wield a greater blade, unearthed thanks to fate and hammer of the Evil...


--- Zitat ---Take the blade of the Foam-riders with thee, Grey Wizard. It is silver, light as our vessels that voyage beyond the blue, yet dreadful token for whom dareth hinder the will of the Western Lords. Thou shalt bear it, along thy hazardous journeys and whither thy mission is to lead thee, until thy hand shall wield a mightier craft, made by grievous exiled and borne by a king dwelling in legend.
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