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--- Zitat von: TiberiusOgden am  6. Aug 2015, 16:57 ---
--- Zitat von: LordDainIronfoot am  6. Aug 2015, 15:34 ---Well I have made that suggestion directly to Earendil!I suggested few weeks ago that there should be some Dwarves led by Durin IV in the Last Alliance Spell but he simply said that they can do it but do not want to! :)

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And I agree with Ea. xD

* In that case there would be too many heroes and units even for ultimate spell
* Movie feeling will be gone, yes, Dwarves also participated, but that spell is nice reference to prologue from the Fellowship of the ring.
* Some dwarven heroes will be in the spellbook as well (Elrond's council spell)
* Dwarves don't like Elves :P
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I too agree with Ea and Tiberius, Dáin  :P

Not only does the Last Alliance spell refer to the War of the Last Alliance itself and the cinematographic adaptation, but also it's a spell mainly based on the last act of this War, the Siege of Barad-dûr and the duel with Sauron, where Gil-galad and Elendil tragically died.
The 'main characters' of this spell must thus necessarily be the High King of the Noldor and the Sons of Númenor; the presence of the Dwarves, though lore accurate could be, would not fit very well.

LordDainIronfoot:
I cant agree with you guys this time! Elves not loving Dwarves is irrelevant since we all know about the good relationship between the Dwarves of Khazad Dum and Eregion and how Durin III gas led and Army to help them against Sauron but arrived too late!
And I cant agree leaving Dwarves out just because it will not be like in thw Movie and the focus must be only on thw beloved Elves amd the great Man leaving Dwarves out this time ia near a "racism" !Just for the sake of Man and Elves to more hype and get all the glory as always! :-) Plus the only hero that the Dwarves will have is Durin IV who can usr Dains old Model with some changes while.the Dwarves can be with old veteran skins! :-)
P.S. And as you can see even in the final act at rhe Siege of Barad Dur there were a Dwarven Army http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Siege%20of%20Barad-d%C3%BBr

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--- Zitat von: LordDainIronfoot am  6. Aug 2015, 23:50 ---I cant agree with you guys this time! Elves not loving Dwarves is irrelevant since we all know about the good relationship between the Dwarves of Khazad Dum and Eregion and how Durin III gas led and Army to help them against Sauron but arrived too late!
And I cant agree leaving Dwarves out just because it will not be like in thw Movie and the focus must be only on thw beloved Elves amd the great Man leaving Dwarves out this time ia near a "racism" !Just for the sake of Man and Elves to more hype and get all the glory as always! :-) Plus the only hero that the Dwarves will have is Durin IV who can usr Dains old Model with some changes while.the Dwarves can be with old veteran skins! :-)

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In fact, in my reply, I never mentioned any type of bad relationships between Elves and Dwarves.
Elves and Dwarves, although some serious 'incidents', have always had good and useful ties since the Years of the Trees, when Middle Earth was dark under a starry Sky, and the only Light dwelt beyond the Pelóri Mountains  8-)

Anyway, the Last Alliance spell is precisely conceived to meet those precise standards, the Dwarves would be out of place  :)

LordDainIronfoot:
Tiberius said about Dwarves nor loving Elves :D
Still I do not understand why thw Dwarves would be out of place!?If that was the case I think that Tolkien himself wouldn't have included them there!While he wanted to show that Dwarves arw not so isolated and selfish to not care about the Darkness that descends !

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--- Zitat von: LordDainIronfoot am  7. Aug 2015, 00:14 ---Tiberius said about Dwarves nor loving Elves :D
Still I do not understand why thw Dwarves would be out of place!?If that was the case I think that Tolkien himself wouldn't have included them there!While he wanted to show that Dwarves arw not so isolated and selfish to not care about the Darkness that descends !

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The Dwarves didn't have a relevant role in the final duel against the Dark Lord, at the feet of his fortress, after years of siege.

In that precise moment, Gil-galad, Elendil and Isildur became part of the LEGEND  :)

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