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Different hero units for Dwarven Kingdoms

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Palpou:
Plus, I don't remember at all where (convenient, isn't it ?), but I read somewhere a long time ago that dwarves riding rams in World of Warcraft were already a plagiarism from Tolkien. It was a huge debate between Warcraft and Warhammer, Warhammer seemed to be the first created, and then someone came to put Tolkien as a common reference with a huge list. With rams too.

I read the Hobbit and the 3 Lord of the Rings but I didn't see rams. Perhaps in the Silmarillon or one of the other book/script/talk to his friends or family ?
For my part I'm not shocked.

korner:

--- Zitat von: Tienety am 27. Jun 2015, 20:18 ---
--- Zitat von: korner am 27. Jun 2015, 19:33 ---I don´t like ram-riders being implemented for the dwarven factions!

Reason: Absolutely NO evidence for dwarves riding rams in Tolkien´s books.
I didn´t like it in the movie (as I didn´t like most of the Hobbit movies) and I don´t want to see it in the mod.

The dwarves are a faction without cavalry and they should stay as they are, with the exception of the god old battlewaggons.

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This is your opinion. Edain mod includes a lot things from the movies. Many people like this Ram riders. This is something unique for the Iron Hills. 8-)

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- if you implement it for the Iron Hills only, it´d be more according to the movies, but it would make the 2 other dwarven factions lack an important unit. Then you´d have to find something similar for them to make them compeet with the Iron Hills. What would that be?

- if you implement the riders for all dwarven faction, then the dwarves would lose their unique characteristic (not having cavalry). That´s simply something that won´t happen, as the Edain team always tries to make every faction unique, with unique gameplay.

Furthermore I can tell you, that the Hobbit movies (and especially those riders, except for Dain´s pig) are not very popular in the german community (and also among the team, as far as I remember).
So, of course you may discuss and rise ideas, but don´t be upset if this won´t be implemented...

NetoD20:
Oh, I'm sad to hear that, those rams are what I was expecting the most from Edain's dwarves. But that's ok, I'll no longer raising my hopes for this...

What about movie design for Iron Hills and Erebor soldiers? Does the Team plan on implementing it or will they keep the current 3.8.1 look?

TiberiusOgden:

--- Zitat von: korner am 27. Jun 2015, 21:08 ---Furthermore I can tell you, that the Hobbit movies (and especially those riders, except for Dain´s pig) are not very popular in the german community (and also among the team, as far as I remember).

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As far as I know ... rams are already implemented for battle wagons or demolishers. So there is definitely inspiration from the last Hobbit movie.

korner:

--- Zitat von: NetoD20 am 27. Jun 2015, 21:31 ---Oh, I'm sad to hear that, those rams are what I was expecting the most from Edain's dwarves. But that's ok, I'll no longer raising my hopes for this...

What about movie design for Iron Hills and Erebor soldiers? Does the Team plan on implementing it or will they keep the current 3.8.1 look?

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I am not part of the Edain team. I cannot tell you, what they are planning. I also may be wrong about the ram-riders, it is simply my impression that the team doesn´t want them. (and me and many others in the german community also don´t like them)


--- Zitat ---As far as I know ... rams are already implemented for battle wagons or demolishers. So there is definitely inspiration from the last Hobbit movie.
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I didn´t say they don´t use anything from the movies.
I didn´t say they won´t implement rams.
I just said (that I think) they won´t implement dwarves riding on rams.
It´s a difference between riding on rams, or using rams to pull battlewagons...

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