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Gandalf The Gray:
well gandalf with the ring is a violation of the lore too

helloa2134:
Anyone aside from Sauron with the ring is a violation, but the ring mechanic has always been an acceptable "what-if" mechanic.  Inherently the ring mechanic is against the lore, but it was in the base game so the team has just made it better and more developed.  Most of them are based on one of Tolkiens letters (which I can't remember) so they aren't totally made up.

Eldalf:
Gandalf with the ring is not against the lore. It is an answer to the question of what if Gandalf was not able to convince Frodo to not offer it to him. Gandalf couldn't even bring himself to touch the ring, knowing that if he touched it, his desire to use the power for good would damn him entirely.

Too be honest, the fair form of Sauron is a direct lore violation. In the downfall of Numenor he lost his fair form and could never again take a form that was not the towering colossus of a dark lord. I would also support removing that as a result :D

helloa2134:

--- Zitat von: Eldalf am 21. Jul 2015, 07:08 ---Too be honest, the fair form of Sauron is a direct lore violation. In the downfall of Numenor he lost his fair form and could never again take a form that was not the towering colossus of a dark lord. I would also support removing that as a result :D

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I think you are joking, because of the smiley face.

That being said, the LoM admitted that it is against the lore, but the uniqueness and coolness of the ability trumps the inherent lore-unfriendliness of it.  I suppose it is the team's artistic license.   Besides, as LoM said, Gorthaur, the terror of the First and Second Age, has some reason for appearing in the mod, whereas Olorin and Curumo do not, as they never appeared outside of Valinor.

Eldalf:
I am and I am not. I find the abilities conferred to be interesting enough from a programmers perspective to over rule the Tolkien scholar in me who finds it is a direct contradiction to an explicit point of the Professors writing. Having worked on academic analysis of Tolkien, I do often find myself torn, in that I respect his undertaking to a point that is insane. However, I also like cool and innovative ideas of coding within the scripting capabilities of the engine hence why I have a smiley face on my post.

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