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New and Different Outpost Building for Ered Luin/Iron Hills

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LordDainIronfoot:
Thank you about your honest opinion and it always makes me happy when someone likes and apriciates our idea! We are aware that there is a lot of Work,but we do not want it to happen right now,it is just an idea which if the Team likes and uses can be used in the future when they have the time for it!In the future when they can I hope they will use it,after all they are quite busy with the remaining factions and we know it! :)
If I am not mistaken,yes they can be destroyed! :)

CragLord:
It is nice to see member of german part of forum to visit and support this topic, this is encouraging in aspect of popularity. :)
It is a lot of work, but it is very justified from lore reasons and diversity between dwarven kingdoms. 
Only what we really missing here is some comment from E.T. :D

Cheers Dain&Tienety. :D
 

Fredius:
Alright people the first suggestion has been posted, and it’s about the Assembly Hall. You can find the poll and discussion here. The attitude towards this idea is mixed in the German forums, some like it, some don’t. A total of 12 people have voted for including the Assembly Hall into the Iron Hills, and 12 people voted for forgetting this idea at all. I will summarize the given arguments in this post and perhaps we could think of a solution that benefits both us and the German community, and give something that the Team can work on.

Now as for the arguments against the suggestion; basically the greatest argument against it is that it doesn’t feel very much lore-like. The complaints are mostly about the possibility that there are probably no Dwarves left in the Grey Mountains, because they have been driven out by the Dragons and Orcs from the North. This means that they cannot have a force that is strong enough to fight for the Iron Hills. As for Orocarni there is almost no known information about them, they might even have fought for the Dark Lord. I sadly am not so great with the lore, so perhaps you guys know something that could persuade the Germans and the Team members?

The second argument that is given a lot is that they have the idea that this is just an attempt to get the Dwarven designs from the Hobbit movies into the game (personally I find this nonsense, because there have been plenty of other designs proposed for the units). Are there perhaps any other designs we could use instead of the Hobbit ones, so that we can “convince” them that this is not an attempt to get those designs into the game?

Whale Sharku is not for or against this concept, because he thinks that this will be a great opportunity to flesh out the Dwarven Factions, but the role of our current Assembly Hall is a bit small and messy. We should think about what makes this building so unique from the other settlements, since it is pretty much a copy of the Dale and Lake Town ones.

Lastly, Grimir has received some complaints too. Ealendril has personally noted that he doesn’t like the concept and the role of the hero at all, and gives no meaning to the mod. It has also been noted that the Iron Hills has just too many heroes.

So what do you guys think? It's perhaps better to make a whole new thread about it, and close this one so that there is more order within the discussions.

LordDainIronfoot:
Iron Hills have too many heroes  haha thats the best joke today!Then Ered Luin has too little heroes I guess :D :D
There are plenty of designs to use not only WETA COnepts!I ahve suggested i nthe past to use the Old Veterans Unit for Ered Mithrin! :)
Orocarni Dwarves are stated to have hepled Durins Folk in the War against the Orcs! http://www.tolkiengateway.net/wiki/War_of_Dwarves_and_Orcs
Plus by al lthe logic with little Dwarves in Ered Mithrin then Ered Luin should be jsut small Sub Faction for Erebor sicne there is not information for being great and strong Kingdom to have big army,why do you think Thorin didn't have an Army on that Quest but just 12 Kinsman!?Ered Luin was like a small Collony made by the most loyal followers of Thror while most othe Dwarve from Erebor have gone to Iron Hills!
The distance problem is simply not Valid ,Lake Town is far from Erd Luin too as well as Gundabad and Dol Guldur from Mordor! :)
Here is about ered Mithrin Dwarves http://www.tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Ered_Mithrin

--- Zitat ---It seems that some Dwarves still dwelt in the Ered Mithrin during the late Third Age, so it is likely after the War of the Ring, the Dwarves drove whatever Drakes and Orcs were left totally from the mountains, and reclaimed the rest of their halls and mines in the Grey Mountains.
--- Ende Zitat ---
And plus the Number of Battalions ot Units in the Halls can be lmited to 2 or 3 to represtn the low numbers of Dwarves there! :)
The speculation on Evi lDwarves is the same as the speculation about not having any Dwarves in Orocarni,nothing can be sure so it depends on the person! :)
So having 2 Same Bards is better than a Hero which is not Bard!?
And no one said we want Movie Models they were jsut part of the idea!
And lastly I want to say that the ideas i open for suggetsion and impropvments,saying that this and that doesnt is no good is fien but lets suggeest something better! :) Eveyron can give ideas to finish the suggestion! :)

Gandalf The Gray:
i agree with dain

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