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New and Different Outpost Building for Ered Luin/Iron Hills

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Gandalf The Gray:
i agree with dain on this one also i think iron heels with lake town it just make no sense
even when they fight together in the movie lake town that now is dale leave the dwarfs and the elfs and they are going to defend dale so it makes more sense to have the elfs as an outpost for iron heels ??? i think not and to put 2 lake towns is kinda not unique i dont know this is just my thinking

Fredius:

--- Zitat von: LordDainIronfoot am  7. Sep 2015, 14:31 ---I admit I didn't thought about that as a possibility!! :) But Fredius is absolutely right! :)
There is no 100% specific place pointed as a residence fo the Dwarves in Ered Mithrin which suggests they could have had few Strongholds trough all Ered Mithrin which indeed is quite a long and wide MOuntain Range! :) And even if you think deeper into it what is the point for Thorin to send for Help from Ered Luin,simply put they are too far away to be abel to get there in time ,too long distance so it is pointless! :)
So I agree that the East includes Iron Hills and Orocarni and North being it in West can actually mean West Ered Mithrin after all as I said it is long Mountain Range and it is possible to have still some smal lDwarven Stronghold or even few! :)
Nice argument there Fredius,you really got me this time ;) :D

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Heh, well if I knew about this quote before than I certainly would have said it sooner ;).


--- Zitat von: Gandalf The Gray am  7. Sep 2015, 15:01 ---i agree with dain on this one also i think iron heels with lake town it just make no sense
even when they fight together in the movie lake town that now is dale leave the dwarfs and the elfs and they are going to defend dale so it makes more sense to have the elfs as an outpost for iron heels ??? i think not and to put 2 lake towns is kinda not unique i dont know this is just my thinking

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That makes sense, Lake-town had better relations with the Mirkwood Elves than the Iron Hills Dwarves. If Mirkwood was a faction of it's own than it would only be logical to give them Lake-town.

LordDainIronfoot:
After all said and done here I just really hope that we were able to show the worthiness of the idea and convince our German freinds that it is more lore friendly and proper than Lake Town for Iron Hills! :)
I really hope that they will see the logic and facts and conclude that it is more apropriate for Iron Hills based on all lore facts we shared here! : )
Greetings! :)

Fredius:
I'll edit the post on the German forums as soon as possible guys. Thanks btw Tienety for the changes in the concepts, but I won't put in the crossbow design because they want as few hobbit concepts as possible (else they might accuse us again :P). And I agree, at this point the lore shouldn't be the reason for not using this concept.

However, are there some other ideas we could use for Grimir? Ealendril himself stated that he doesn't like his design in both appearance and abilities. That's all the information he gave.

LordDainIronfoot:
I agree Fredeius,there are many possible looks for Crossbow so it wil lbe better as you said to remove it so we won't get accused again! :)
Here are efw None Movie ideas! ;)
And I most of all hope that lore will no longer be the rason to hold the concept back! :)

About Grimir there are endless possibilities since he is not a lore hero!We can make him even from Orocarni and give him all sorts of abilitie as long as te Team finds them good! :)
Here is Concept from my personal favourites which I would have loved to see as Dain,Nain or Durin himself! :) but ti can be used for Orocarni Lord or Ered Mithrin Chief...
And with all my respect ot Ea as Leader of the Team,if he do not like the current Grimir but still likes the idea he simply can suggest a diffrent Hero with different name and Abilities,after all it is an open discussion about the Idea should it be used and how can it be improved! :)

Greetings to all! :)

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