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Who will be better for scout role in Isengard?

Mauhur
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Bill Ferny
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Autor Thema: New scout hero for Isengard  (Gelesen 9614 mal)

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Re: New scout hero for Isengard
« Antwort #45 am: 10. Dez 2015, 16:15 »
Hmm yes. I will try some of that. Anyway, would you replace Ferny with Mauhur or Lugdush still? Personally, I am finally getting used to play Isengard's early-game, and then they want to change the scout hero, a key part of any early game lol. Oh well.
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Re: New scout hero for Isengard
« Antwort #46 am: 10. Dez 2015, 18:10 »
I don't think Bill fits at all. He was a scumbag, sure, but he sold information to anybody as would buy it, including the Nazgul.
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Re: New scout hero for Isengard
« Antwort #47 am: 10. Dez 2015, 23:10 »
I agree with Elite..bill was never actually seen in isengard..only bree..dont think he fits ..Prefer Mauhur but Lugdush is cool too if anybody has any good ideas for him

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Re: New scout hero for Isengard
« Antwort #48 am: 11. Dez 2015, 01:55 »
I will once again give my support to Mauhur as the scout hero. I just ended a couple of matches against Lothlorien, and I didn't really need Bill (ok, I played a bunch of matches because the AI kept crushing me down, but that's another story xD). The point is, even if his last skill is really useful, he has to get level 10 first. If he reaches it by experience, it will take too much time, while if he reaches it by money, you would waste a lot of money for a skill only, which is something Isengard can't afford in the early game.

Trust me, in the Early Game Dunlendings are absolute beasts, especially if equipped with torches and sometimes escorted by Uruk Scouts, until you can overcome the EG by recruiting Wulfgar^^
(Atleast, that's my strategy)
« Letzte Änderung: 11. Dez 2015, 11:47 von DrHouse93 »

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Re: New scout hero for Isengard
« Antwort #49 am: 11. Dez 2015, 03:07 »

I completely agree with those words! +1 form me, and  I also voted long time ago for Billy "banishment" from Isenguard... Reasons are pretty clear, and House you described them very well!

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Re: New scout hero for Isengard
« Antwort #50 am: 11. Dez 2015, 14:08 »
To tell the truth , i don't like mauhur the same as bill ferny :D still bill is more unique then another uruk non-important hero. Personally , i would like to see some scout horde. I don't think that isengard needs another uruk hero.

I am more open to use ROTWK uruk deathbringers in some changed form as scouts, 3 uruk horde with interesting abilities would be a better choice IMO than hero. It wasn't a bad idea in Iron hills after all. :)

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Re: New scout hero for Isengard
« Antwort #51 am: 11. Dez 2015, 14:39 »
I understand that maybe "uruk" hero as scout isn't so unique, but I really can say that Bill is not correlated to Isenguard in any tearm.
He as one "opportunistic backstabber" from Bree. His evil works are correlated with Nazguls not with Saruman, and he sold some information about hobbits to Nazguls so they latter attacked Bree and Prancing Pony... I really don't see why he is so unique in terms of Isenguard scout hero. He isn't correlated to Isenguard...
Mahur in other hand was some kind of scout, or uruk scout. :)

About your suggestion of scouting horde, it is nice. Problem is probably because similar stuff already exist in game (as you have said in IH faction), and those scouting uruks are already used as base unit in game for Isenguard faction. I presume that would be problem in eyes of team etc

Personally I like idea. :)

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Re: New scout hero for Isengard
« Antwort #52 am: 11. Dez 2015, 16:55 »
I am more open to use ROTWK uruk deathbringers in some changed form as scouts, 3 uruk horde with interesting abilities would be a better choice IMO than hero.

Just in case: The models of the deathbringers will only return over my dead body.

Hate those weird horny... things.

I understand that maybe "uruk" hero as scout isn't so unique, but I really can say that Bill is not correlated to Isenguard in any tearm.
He as one "opportunistic backstabber" from Bree. His evil works are correlated with Nazguls not with Saruman, and he sold some information about hobbits to Nazguls so they latter attacked Bree and Prancing Pony... I really don't see why he is so unique in terms of Isenguard scout hero. He isn't correlated to Isenguard...
Mahur in other hand was some kind of scout, or uruk scout. :)

Well, he was one of the ruffians who controlled the Shire folk for Saruman, so there is a connection.

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Re: New scout hero for Isengard
« Antwort #53 am: 11. Dez 2015, 22:03 »
I am not a "they should have darker hair or another weapon model" type of fan, it's really beyond me. :D I just like the idea of having a uruk scout horde of 3, as a basic point it sounds intersting. But i am not sure if you( and a team) and other players are open to change in isen scout position. Bill is unique , but not so interesting, it's always the same: get him to level 10 and use his last ability and that's it :/

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Re: New scout hero for Isengard
« Antwort #54 am: 12. Dez 2015, 03:02 »

Belive me Admin, I have read all those chapters in Return of the King in order to find this information. And yes, he guarded the gate at the Brandywine Bridge and he joined to Saruman after his official downfall.
I forgot this obviously in meanwhile... All which I remembered about him was situation when he sold information about hobbits to Nazguls, and later when Samwise hit him in nose with apple because of that. :D And after I read those chapters again, his pony also kicked his ass. xD :D
So yes, you were right, there are good lore reasons.

P.S.Maybe on his place also could be implementet this one: http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Squint-eyed_Southerner
Because he was the most trusted of these "scums" to Saruman. Those are official information from Tolkien gateway which is the most accurate site about Toliken works in general. I just say, this was probably matter for time when you implemented Bil in first place.

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« Letzte Änderung: 12. Dez 2015, 04:22 von CragLord »

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Re: New scout hero for Isengard
« Antwort #55 am: 28. Feb 2016, 00:20 »
I know it has been awhile. But I would like this to happen.

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Re: New scout hero for Isengard
« Antwort #56 am: 8. Apr 2016, 16:46 »
How about having Bill as a NPC, one you can approach and buy information from. Maybe buy some debuffs aswell.

He just roams around and can be interacted by any faction?