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Lord Dain's level 10 summon (Iron hills Dain, why it is lord instead of king)

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Something that is annoying about the summon is how you can't consistently get the units you want. Say, you were having trouble vs archers, and you needed Ered luin's Defensive soldiers, but  you got Erebor's less defensive soldiers instead; that can  make the summon too much of a gamble :o.

Why not make it so it switches to a different skill set, where you can choose between summoning  Erebor and Ered luin?
It would only be in that different skill set for 6-10 seconds, and it would take Dain 6-10 seconds to call an army from one
(That way you can't summon Erebor, and Ered luin for ultimate opness :P)

And can the units possibly come pre-equipped with their special upgrades?
Ered luin would come with war-masks on their guardians
And Erebor would get Siege hammers on their guardians 8-|.
 

LordDainIronfoot:
Being able to choose will make the Ability too OP but still I like it but it wont be good for the balance! :)
But I stll think that he should be able to summon a Max of 3-4 Battalions of Battle Rams permamently on  the Battle Field equiped with Forge Baldes and Heavy Armor! :)
P.S. Well he is considered as "Lord" rather than King simply cuz it is something like when the Elves had High King and Men had High King,what I mean that every head of one of the 7 Clans of the Dwarves is Lord in his own right and somewhat equal to all other Dwarf Lords,and as you see in bot LOTR and The Hobbit Trilogies the Dwarf Leaders are reffered as 'Dwarf Lords" rather than "Dwarf King" cuz Lord is their primarly tittle while King is the direct discendent and heir of Durin the first and oldest of their Race which makes Thror,Thrain II , Thorin II and Dain II and all after them and before them smething like High King of all Dwarves! :) So I hope this answers your question! :)

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--- Zitat von: LordDainIronfoot am  5. Aug 2015, 08:09 ---Being able to choose will make the Ability too OP but still I like it but it wont be good for the balance! :)


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Isn't King Dain of Erebor's abillity a bit too op in that same sense?
With all those different kingdoms, you can combine an army of dwarven slaughters(pickaxe to knock infantry around) with Ered luin defenders(No arrow damage, and perfect tanks) to create the perfect op army.

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But I stll think that he should be able to summon a Max of 3-4 Battalions of Battle Rams permamently on  the Battle Field equiped with Forge Baldes and Heavy Armor! :)

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I wouldn't mind that idea, since in lore he probably didn't have the power to summon the dwarven realms as lord of iron hills.

quote author=LordDainIronfoot link=topic=31522.msg404452#msg404452 date=1438754987]
P.S. Well he is considered as "Lord" rather than King simply cuz it is something like when the Elves had High King and Men had High King,what I mean that every head of one of the 7 Clans of the Dwarves is Lord in his own right and somewhat equal to all other Dwarf Lords,and as you see in bot LOTR and The Hobbit Trilogies the Dwarf Leaders are reffered as 'Dwarf Lords" rather than "Dwarf King" cuz Lord is their primarly tittle while King is the direct discendent and heir of Durin the first and oldest of their Race which makes Thror,Thrain II , Thorin II and Dain II and all after them and before them smething like High King of all Dwarves! :) So I hope this answers your question! :)
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While I appreciate the Dwarven history lesson, I don't recall asking a question  :D

Edit: Wait, if you mean (Iron hills Dain, why it is lord instead of king)
It would've been a question if it was:
(Iron hills Dain, why is it lord instead of king?)

LordDainIronfoot:
King Dain ability to summon Allied Barracks is fine!Sinnce the Units should be bought with esourse not summoned for free and you have to do their upgrades with resourses too! :)
And is fit from him as King Under the Mountain/High King of the Dwarves to be able to call upon Armies from all Dwarven Kingdoms under his Banner! :)
I am glad you agree on the Ram Riders! :)
Well in Iron Hills he is Lord still,but in the Mod it is wirtten King and I suggest that the team shouldchange it! :)

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--- Zitat von: LordDainIronfoot am  5. Aug 2015, 10:44 ---King Dain ability to summon Allied Barracks is fine!Sinnce the Units should be bought with esourse not summoned for free and you have to do their upgrades with resourses too! :)
And is fit from him as King Under the Mountain/High King of the Dwarves to be able to call upon Armies from all Dwarven Kingdoms under his Banner! :)
I am glad you agree on the Ram Riders! :)
Well in Iron Hills he is Lord still,but in the Mod it is wirtten King and I suggest that the team shouldchange it! :)

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It isn't actually that big of a change, xD.
He already summons 4 units from Ered luin/ Erebor.
It would just be nice if you could choose what units you summoned  ;)

And, King Dain of Erebor's summon is better than the Iron hills one.
Why?
1: It is another barracks (Huge adavantage)
2:You get a-lot of unit diversity with this barracks, and you can choose whatever unit from whatever realm you want.
3: A funny thing is, this barracks has a habit of shooting arrows once you get it  8-|
So, it can act as a tower,a second/third barracks,and unlike Iron hills Dain's summon, you can consistently  hire dwarves from other kingdoms.
And if you got a level 10 Dain, you won't mind the extra resources.

Another thing, (Iron hills) Dain does not summon fully upgraded infantry, so you still have to pay for that.

The team should probably change his name to Lord Dain or Dain Ironfoot; Or should I say Dain ironHead  :D

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