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Walküre:
As Maraelion wrote  ;)

It is reported in the lore that, in some exceptional cases, Elves can have a beard at an advanced stage in their life. The very Elves, in fact, do age as all the other creatures; with the sole significant difference that they do it in an extremely slow way, and their lifespan is generally as long as the existence of Arda itself. In other words: they are not 'truly' immortal as the Ainur are, but they are nonetheless destined to live forever.

Furthermore, I don't really think that this topic deserves a thread of its own. I will thus merge this thread with the Gondor Brief Ideas.

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kraxmause:

--- Zitat von: dialsamai am 29. Jul 2016, 22:30 --- Círdan along with Gil-galad and Galadriel (and right behind her) accepting his "gift" from Annatar/Sauron (this could also serve as a source of artwork, if his face was to be HD-rendered/remastered):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOulsEGvSCo

Of course, in the end, Mithrandir got hold of Círdan's ring (and Elrond too inherited his from his slain Noldorin Lord, Gil-galad), but the one above was the original way the "Elven-kings under the Sky" got their gifts, named Narya, Nenya and Vilya if I am not mistaken. Sorry for going off-theme.  xD Cheers! I hope you agree on this.

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Actually, this scene from the movie is wrong. I guess it is supposed to show Galadriel, Gil-galad and Círdan as they got the rings after they were forged, but that didn't happen as it is depicted: Both Vilya (later held by Elrond) and Narya (later held by Círdan, then Gandalf) were both given to Gil-galad by Celebrimbor, and later entrusted to Elrond and Círdan. Sauron never touched them (that's why he couldn't influence or find them) and Gil-galad and Círdan never had one ring each at the same time.
It's one of the small details Peter Jackson missed or (more likely) changed for the sake of simplification. ;)

canadyan:
I had another thematic idea for Aragorn, though I do not know if it's something that could be done on the technical side.

Having the 'Strider' version of Aragorn be recruited from the Gondor Citadel doesn't make a lot of sense (thematically), so I was thinking of two other ways he could be recruitable.

I remember an Eomer discussion for Rohan that was really cool, basically, having him only recruitable at the  Exile Camp until Theoden is no longer corrupted, representing his unavailability to Rohan at the time and only becoming recruitable at the Citadel when the corruption is lifted.

Is it possible to have Aragorn recruited through, for example, the Ranger camp until he starts to take on his Path and then becomes recruitable within Gondor itself? Alternatively, would it be possible to have him first summoned as a power and then becomes permanently recruitable in the Citadel?

I know the current system works well, this mod is just so good that it's hard not to recommend little flavour changes or at least bring them up for discussion.

Walküre:
As you rightly wrote, the current system works pretty well, and I thus honestly can't see any point in altering it even slightly. Remember that one of the main principles that is often followed in proposals consists exactly of not changing something for the sole sake of changing itself: don't fix what is not broken.

Specifically, the Ranger Camp doesn't really fit Aragorn, for the fact that it represents the very Rangers of Gondor and their captain Faramir. Strider would be fitting for the Dúnedain Camp indeed, but this outpost is part of Rivendell and located in another territory (out of the Kingdom of Gondor). On the other side, making him accessible via the spellbook would unnecessarily complicate the faction's mechanics, without any clear logic behind.

On the present structure, I guess there are not needed premises that may turn your suggestion into a favourable option.

Amandil7:
I have an idea, wouldn't it be cool if Denethor had a move called "Pyre of Denethor", in which he basically kills himself and burns units around him in a small radius, both friendly and enemy units.

Alternatively, instead of an active ability, it could also be his standard death, like when you kill him, he goes up in flames.

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