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NetoD20:

--- Zitat von: Fredius am 18. Okt 2015, 23:25 ---And perhaps the book is meant for children, the game BFME is not ;).
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Yes, I know, that's completely part of my point in my second paragraph.

Fredius:

--- Zitat von: NetoD20 am 18. Okt 2015, 23:28 ---
--- Zitat von: Fredius am 18. Okt 2015, 23:25 ---And perhaps the book is meant for children, the game BFME is not ;).
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Yes, I know, that's completely part of my point in my second paragraph.

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Ah excuse me I misread that part!

korner:

--- Zitat --- I will summarize it in a couple of easy sentences that even you should understand
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No need to get rude, man! Rudeness is my privileg in this forum, not yours  ;).


Back to topic:

 
--- Zitat ---And where exactly did I state that the Dwarves DON'T need the big shields,
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In your last posting:
 
--- Zitat ---Which means a big shield wouldn't make much of a difference.
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I understood you meant no difference in battle, you obviously meant no difference in carrying... such misunderstandings can happen, no need to get insulting!

All this argument started when you said:

--- Zitat ---They came with mattocks, and a short sword with a small buckler shield. Sorry but if the Dwarves only carried those arms against Elven archers, they would have been slaughtered within minutes.
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My answer was that they had to carry light armour AND weapons, to arrive in time.
Ok so in fact they wore heavy armour. But still that´s less then carrying spears, big shields, BALLISTAS and such things.
Remember Gimli hunting the Uruks in HdR2? Running with heavy armour... but no shield.

AND:
My argument always was: IF the dwarves had mounts, they would have used them to get to the mountain, as they were in a hurry.


By the way: I don´t remeber what all this has to do with the topic (ram riders)? I think we have been discussing off-topic for too long now.. I for myself go to sleep now, have a nice evening.

Fredius:

--- Zitat von: korner am 18. Okt 2015, 23:40 ---No need to get rude, man! Rudeness is my privileg in this forum, not yours  ;).


--- Zitat ---And where exactly did I state that the Dwarves DON'T need the big shields,
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In your last posting:
 
--- Zitat ---Which means a big shield wouldn't make much of a difference.
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I understood you meant no difference in battle, you obviously meant no difference in carrying... such misunderstandings can happen, no need to get insulting!

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Hahahha sorry for that, mistakes can happen xD.


--- Zitat ---All this argument started when you said:

--- Zitat ---They came with mattocks, and a short sword with a small buckler shield. Sorry but if the Dwarves only carried those arms against Elven archers, they would have been slaughtered within minutes.
--- Ende Zitat ---
My answer was that they had to carry light armour AND weapons, to arrive in time.
Ok so in fact they wore heavy armour. But still that´s less then carrying spears, big shields, BALLISTAS and such things.
Remember Gimli hunting the Uruks in HdR2? Running with heavy armour... but no shield.

AND:
My argument always was: IF the dwarves had mounts, they would have used them to get to the mountain, as they were in a hurry.

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Gimli didn't really wear heavy armor. Heavy armor is what the soldiers of Erebor and the Iron Hills wore. Gimli only wore some chainmail with some leather clothing. But that isn't really important right now.

Actually the argument I started was about the fact that the Dwarves are not well equipped for battle, I personally don't care about the matter of speed that they needed to arrive on time. Again I'm saying that if they only were prepared in the way as was described in the book, they would have arrived on the battle only to lose it. Now that would be hilarious!

Now let me tell you something; you are damn right that Rams were not mentioned in the book. Dude I never said I disagree about that, I just agree with Peter Jackson that he added those Ram Riders. If you want to know why I am in favor of Ram Riders you can look it up on page number 2, cuz I'm not going to repeat everything :P. And no the Rams would have not made any difference in how fast they would arrive to the Lonely Mountain, since the main regiment of the army consisted of infantry and the Rams should adjust their speed to that of the infantry.

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