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dgsgomes:

--- Zitat von: DreamWar am 10. Nov 2019, 11:47 ---Eowyn being the best hero killer in the game is quite frankly - bullshit. Killing the Witch King? Okay. Questionable. Killing Gorthaur? What? Killing Sauron? Alright, whatever. Why is she the best? It doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

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In this videos, she can't beat Witch-King nor Sauron:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_QzsvIUoaM&t=48s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0F0TaW9zUw&t=226s

Walküre:

--- Zitat von: DreamWar am 10. Nov 2019, 11:47 ---Eowyn being the best hero killer in the game is quite frankly - bullshit.
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I would also refrain from swearing in comments, if I were you. It does nothing else but cast a negative light on both you and your remarks, especially at the beginning of a conversation.

If you wish to bring people on your side and convince them of the reasons lying in your suggestions, use arguments and logic, instead of cursing. That's the only way allowing for fruitful discussions.

Seleukos I.:

--- Zitat ---Eowyn being the best hero killer in the game is quite frankly - bullshit. Killing the Witch King? Okay. Questionable. Killing Gorthaur? What? Killing Sauron? Alright, whatever. Why is she the best? It doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
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As this is a balance related topic I'd like to share some thoughts.
You say Eowyn is a good herokiller.
Well, we can agree on that, it's her job after all. Every hero in the game has a certain function, like Gandalf beeing a mass-slayer or Dain a unit supporter. And Eowyn is a herokiller. So I think there is nothing wrong with that.
Then you say she is THE BEST herokiller in the game (which she is not, but she is very good), and I think that means you think she is TOO GOOD.
 And here I don't agree.
As I said I think Eowyn is a very good herokiller with very powerfull abilities later on (lvl 5 and lvl 10). But the important point is, she is only good vs heroes. Eowyn has no ability that really helps her against normal units. Other herokillers, like Aragon, are very effective against units as well. Eowny isn't.

In short:
Eowyn is very good vs heroes, but I don't think that's a problem at all as she is rather useless against everything else. And even against heroes she needs some levels to be really deadly (and leveling a hero in a normal game isn't as easy as you might think).


In case you think it is "unrealistic" for Eowyn to kill Gorthaur or the witchking:
Yes, in Terms of lore that would look rather strange, but as long as noone complains about a Hobbit beeing able to kill a Dragon by throwing stones st him I don't think we should talk about realism to much^^

I'm looking forwand to your response :)

best regardes,
Seleukos I.

Big F:
This is the Rohan subsection of my gameplay & balance post over at the general balance discussion thread.

Assuming that drafted peasants have the same stats as other standard battalions it seems too strong for their cost especially because their passive ability to be buffed near farms is one of the best abilities of any standard sword unit.

Theoden's armor buff when leveled seems too strong.

Rohan's settlement healing (plus tower) is way too strong. Very strong and boring. I elaborated on it more the post in the general balance discussion thread. It should at least be moved to the exile camp as an upgrade like the other faction unique outposts have.

Elendils Cousin 3. Grades:
Drafted peasants have 25% less health than other standard sword units like Gondor soldiers.

Good point about the armor buff, I'll take a look at it.

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