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Hamanathnath:
I think Mogat hit the Nail on the Head with this:
--- Zitat von: Mogat am 11. Mai 2016, 16:16 ---Of course this is whole point is tremendously map depended, which makes it even harder to discuss.

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But I will stick with think 60 seconds is a good amount of time on it.  Yes, on smaller maps, you will most likely have the buff more then you won't, but you still have to leave combat in order to get it back.  And remember that most of us have also called for a price increase on the Exile Camp.  If a price increase should occur, then I think Nerfing this buff so much  would be a bad idea.
Statues are very cheap buildings, and have a hero discount, so the Exile Camp having a stronger buff makes sense, even with its other added benefits, and especially if there is a price increase on the Exile Camp.  At least, that is my opinion on the subject.

Elite KryPtik:
I would say 60-45 seconds would be a good time limit on the Exile Camp buff, especially if it gets a cost increase, which I personally don't agree with. That's part of the usefulness of the camp, is that its so cheap to build. Remember, to get anything other than the camp itself you still have to pay, at minimum, 280 resources per unit, and to access its more useful features you have to upgrade it for 1k, and then pay even more money for more troops. The 500 cost is just a gateway to unlock units that cost more money.

Its not like its Dale(which generates WAY more resources by the way right out of the gate) with the ability to tank and kill enemies on its own, if its not defended it will fall easily. The defensive slaves around it are not a real threat, even after its upgraded, so if you don't actively defend the outpost then the enemy can easily harass it. I think calling for a price increase is just a bit lazy to be honest, all you have to do is go and harass the enemy to get them to leave the vicinity of the camp, then destroy it. My two cents on the matter  ;)

Lord of Mordor:
I agree, the Exile Camp is meant to be balanced around the fact that it's a cheap early game option, which makes it unique among outposts. I wouldn't mind raising its cost to 600, but not much higher than that - if it's too strong for that price, I'd rather nerf it.

Bringing the duration down to 45 sounds like a good compromise to me. We could also remove the experience boost from the buff, as that's not really essential for helping with early game aggression.

Thanks for your feedback on ability durations :) We'll be sticking with 30 seconds as a baseline then.

Adrigabbro:

--- Zitat von: Lord of Mordor am 11. Mai 2016, 18:16 ---I agrre, the Exile Camp is meant to be balanced around the fact that it's a cheap early game option, which makes it unique among outposts. I wouldn't mind raising its cost to 600, but not much higher than that - if it's too strong for that price, I'd rather nerf it.

Bringing the duration down to 45 sounds like a good compromise to me. We could also remove the experience boost from the buff, as that's not really essential for helping with early game aggression.

Thanks for your feedback on ability durations :) We'll be sticking with 30 seconds as a baseline then.

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Great news. :) I agree with removing the experience bonus if you chose to bring the duration down to 45 instead of the standard 30.

Odysseus:
Sounds like a good setup to test. Looking forward to that, as well!

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