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Mordor Balance Discussion

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Darkayah:

--- Zitat ---In my opinion Sauron with the ring is not the problem,
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Yes... In the most games, they/we play without the ring.



--- Zitat ---but the constant spamming of orcs, I do understand why its free and everything but at least increase the production time, its nonstop attacking, and on top of that free, so they can use all their money on seige weapons.
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That's the Point. if you use the spamming of orcs right, your Enemy have no chance to fight or to buy heroes or Upgrades because you buy soldiers all the time. And your enemy buy this free orcs and can save resources and buy Nazûl, siege weapons, then Dol-Guldur or Minas Morgul(= heavier free orcs!) or what ever.

Hamanathnath:
I will agree that Mordor is the easiest to play because of the Free Orcs spam strategy.  However, what many people don't understand is how easy it is to counter them.  Orcs are not strong.  They NEED some sort of support in order to do anything.  And every faction has something that counters Orc Spam. 

Also take into consideration that Mordor has the most expensive Barracks right now.  And I think Orcs have the second longest unit production compared to every other factions first swordsmen.  The only one unit that takes longer is Rohan Peasants.  And you think Catapults need a price increase? It takes the Mordor catapult FOREVER to kill anything that isn't a economy building.  And Troll Catapults are very expensive already.

Nerfing orcs will make Mordor's early game impossible to win.  Without them in their current state, all the other factions starting units, if used correctly, will decimate Mordor early in the game.

Adrigabbro:
Disclaimer: By no means I want to start over the debate about Mordor.  :D

Haman is right, orcs are not that strong. What is really strong at the moment is Nazguls, Cirith Ungol orcs and the spellbook. But most of all, Nazguls. They are incredibly good at mass killing on horseback because they hardly decelerate when trampling and their debuff is quite ridiculous.

Elite KryPtik:

--- Zitat von: Adrigabbro am 20. Feb 2016, 09:44 ---Disclaimer: By no means I want to start over the debate about Mordor.  :D

Haman is right, orcs are not that strong. What is really strong at the moment is Nazguls, Cirith Ungol orcs and the spellbook. But most of all, Nazguls. They are incredibly good at mass killing on horseback because they hardly decelerate when trampling and their debuff is quite ridiculous.

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^ This. Also, their debuff once you have them all on the field is outright ridiculous.

Elite KryPtik:
OK, I have just played a 3v3 against 3 Angmars, and I can say with utter surety that Mordor doesn't have a shadow of a chance against Angmar. They have been nerfed into the ground. All the nerfs that Mordor has received means that the only time you can effectively push forwards against Angmar is early game, once those upgraded men of carn dum are out on the battlefield its over. I did record the game and it will be posted up on my channel tomorrow, you can see in the video how impossible it is for me to make any ground.

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