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New Iron Hills Unique Siege Weapon

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korner:
If you look on real historical use of ballistas, they were used to shoot one single, heavy targets (ships, siege towers, battering rams, wooden pallisades where archers hide etc.) rather then just firing somewhere in the middle of some people running around.

Reason is that a bolt (no matter how big it is) does not really have any "area damage". It hits a single target very hard, maybe crushes through and hits someone hiding behind an obstacle, but that´s it.

Therefore I´d prefer that ballistas:
- should get very high damage against single target (but only little damage against buildings, maybe except gates)
- a very narrow, but strong area damage (like 1 - max. 2 meters in real scale)

Their use would then be:
- shoot on enemy siege weapons
- shoot on trolls, mumakils...
- shoot on units in defensive block stance, for example tower guards (due to the small but strong area damage they´d be hit much harder then troops in lose formation!)

LordDainIronfoot:
Well the Are DGM and the Small KNockbacks with this parcticular Ballistas comes from the Chains on the Bolts! :)

But that aside I do agree with your udea about against what they should be used! :)

korner:

--- Zitat von: LordDainIronfoot am 31. Okt 2015, 22:21 ---Well the Are DGM and the Small KNockbacks with this parcticular Ballistas comes from the Chains on the Bolts! :)

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yes... which is why I was talking about realistic use  ;)

LordDainIronfoot:
We had long discuission long time ago which I do not wish to repeat but that is actualyl quite possible! :)

But lets stay on topic !

The thing is if the Catapults stay and the Ballistas are like Extra Siege Unit,similar to the Earth Shaker then as in my Old TThread was about we should find a Extra Unit for Ered Luin too! :)

Fredius:

--- Zitat von: korner am 31. Okt 2015, 22:17 ---If you look on real historical use of ballistas, they were used to shoot one single, heavy targets (ships, siege towers, battering rams, wooden pallisades where archers hide etc.) rather then just firing somewhere in the middle of some people running around.

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Hmm that's half correct, people actually did use them to fire on masses of soldiers, because the chance was big that they would skewer multiple men with just 1 bolt. Source: http://www.militaryfactory.com/ancient-warfare/detail.asp?ancient_id=Ballista

Altough it's a pretty good idea to use them especially agianst trolls or other monsters. What I propose is to give them little area damage, but if they manage to hit they would give a lot of damage to the poor victims. I like your idea about using them against tight formations, they are a perfect counter for that.

However, I do not agree with keeping both the Catapult AND the ballista. Iron Hills already has a catapult when the Ered Mithrin outpost is built, so now they actually have 2 catapults ;).

P.S. Yes Dain I meant Ered Luin Crossbowmen* :D, my bad.

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