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New Iron Hills Unique Siege Weapon

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LordDainIronfoot:
I am glad that agreed on that! :)

I tihnk the "Chain Bolts" will be something more unique and interesting than ordinary Fire Bolts!And to have "Fire Bolts " Upgrade for the Ordinary Bolts and then Upgrade to switch Ammontions wel lseem too much or too OP,or you think we can ahve both!? :)

Agree there! After all we saw how much DMG the Iron Ballista did to the Elven Ranks killing doznes and throwing even more aside! :) So I think youare right a Knockback and Smal lArea DMG like 2-3 Soldiers with little DMG on them will be fine or mabe more Soldiers but less DMG ! :) Yeah aotherwise it seems kinda funny to hit and KNockback a whole Battalion and all to stand like nothing happed :D

Plus this will add more fro mthe Movie Feeling and Effect that many fans liked,including me,sadly the Anti Arrow Effect is to ocomplicate to make and use in game so we should enjoy ito nly in the Movie! :)

korner:
so let me sum up:

you want to replace the catapult (strong against buildings!) against the ballista which will be strong against single units/ multiple units with those damn chains?
IH will therefore lose the ability to do ranged attacks on buildings, as they´d only have the rams... (we do not know how strong/ effective the catapult from Ered Mithrin will be).

Why??

And WHY the hell is it necessary to implement those stupid chains which would make the ballista no ballista anymore?
We talked about the real use of ballistas and even you Lord Dain agreed that it´d be more interesting to have the ballista as a special weapon with a certain purpose/ use:
- monsters
- siege weapons
- clumped units

Why isn´t it possible to keep the catapult and use the ballista either as extra unit (I agree that it´d be imbalanced between the dwarven realms) or as an extension to the dwarven fortress (which I´d like)?

Maraelion:
I agree with korner. And do not use these nonsense chainbolts.
Greetings
Maraelion

LordDainIronfoot:
I have no problem with Ballista being Extra Unit!We jsut will ahve to find one for Ered Luin too! :) Replacing the Catapult is jsut on ofthe options we dicussed! :) I do not liek Ballista as Castl Defence the whole point of the Ballista is to be Mobile! :)

The Chains are for the Fans who like them and I am one of them so thats my opinion!Melkor too agreed that we could find a good and realisstic purpose for the Chains!And I gain will say that it is not comepletely unrealistic! :)

That I agree on something doesnt mean I do not agre on another thing too,which one I like more is another thing! :) And I personaly like more the idea which we discussed with Melkor no matter being Extra Unit or replacment Unit! :)

Tha Ballista wiill just have Double Role kinda with the Upgrade! :)

korner:
you always want to find "compromise" between "the community" (which is in that case you and most part of english forum which likes all Hobbit movie stuff, ignoring most part of the german community) and the Edain team (who are mostly said not to like those designs).
Those "compromises" are always: implement something you want.

Why can´t we make a compromise which includes that ballista without those stupid chains??
Don´t you see that all the compromises you suggest are getting 100% of your will?
Don´t you se that there are obviously a lot of people who absolutely dislike those chains?
Wouldn´t it then be fair to say: okay we like to see those ballistas, for the sake of a compromise we can live with having the ballistas without those chains?

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