[en] Edain Mod > [Edain] Dwarven Suggestions
Battlewagons Improvements
LordDainIronfoot:
--- Zitat von: ThorinsNemesis am 6. Nov 2015, 14:42 ---^^So it happens that I completely agree with all your ideas regarding Dwarves, it seems that we have the same opinion about them! Only difference is that you are one of their greatest warriors, and I just like their taste! xD [uglybunti]
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Ahha it seems so my friend! :-) But that joke made my day :D :D
--- Zitat von: Dainironfootironhills am 6. Nov 2015, 15:02 ---It is great to see the community comming together on this idea,I can't wait to se with what the team come up with if they are going to implament this idea
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Well I glad to it is rear to see that :D Now we can only hope.that the Team will like it and use it!? :-)
CragLord:
Completely agree about almost everything suggested here. :)
Reasons for those changes are nicely described in term of geography and warfare of dwarven realms in Middle Earth. I hardly support all of them.
You have right, current Battlewagon look very cartoonish, and new skinning is really desirable, of course because of high standard which is set by this mod at first place.
So, I support and like idea about reskinning curret Battle wagon look, and this war machine deserve new name, as you have suggested, War Chariot is so good name for it. :)
If team in further future decide to implement this and those new animals that would be great and I think it will boost quality of mod even more.
Concerning animals, I am really only for rams (goats) and some unique implementation of those epic wild boars:
I like those white goats model for Ered Luin, they are muscular animals which are inspirated in weta design by Mountain goat in nature : Rocky Mountain Goat
I would really like to see them as corresponding animal for Blue Mountains region which is tamed by Ered Luin dwarves. Also it white color is really fitting in blue/white color theme of Ered Luin dwarves. So, this is one more reason why I think this white mountain goat is so good choice for Ered Luin. :)
This one is really fitting because of itS color for Erebor, perfect in that brown theme. Beast looks very strong and muscular. Like that horn armor touch. :)
I have seen that korner have suggested Muskox as pulling animal, I am against this species because it is not goat, it is something between goat and ox. I am mainly only for goats here, 3 different looks of rams, and this Muskox is animal which is living on Artic region not in Mountain environment which are concerning dwarves here in first place. :)
And current ram from this Erebor picture suggestion already looks similar in muscular from with Muskox, but more useful with those horns look and position. :)
Now concerning Iron Hills, I am against wide range usage of wild boars. Let me explain. I am for that regular War Chariot is pulled by current Nazgul's model which is currently used in game as pulling and riding animal for Iron Hills.
Also that current model looks similar to movie pulling and ridding animals (yes in case you haven't noticed ridding rams in movie and chariot's pulling rams are very different, they have different horns, horn's position, fur and color. On this picture you can see differences: Pulling rams). So this current game model should stay with Iron Hills and only with them.
And concerning those epic wild boars. The best way of using them is to make them more unique in game. And my suggestion is to integrate them only in Kings Dain War Chariot ability. Those summoning chariots are unique and they should become even more unique by adding those boars as pulling animals. Reason for this is that as you have said they represent Royal Crest for Dain's House. So this touch will be great in Erebor, King Dain have saved his royal family symbol. And in Iron Hills this is already integrated in term of Lord Dains personal pig mount. So keep boars unique and add them only in this ability. Simply I wouldn't like to see that all of chariots are pulled by royal animal of Lord Dain's House. It would lost that unique touch if whole Iron Hills faction will have boars for chariots.
Concerning war chariots upgrades, we shouldn't complicate things. All of them should stay with same upgrades as in current situation. And if we would like to see that crossbow, then it could be integrated as cool down ability instead barrel, as FG have said. Or maybe in place of archer/axe/crossbow unit upgrade which exist now.
--- Zitat von: FG15 am 6. Nov 2015, 10:19 ---Also there aren't animations for two animals in front of the War Chariot.
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So does this mean that there is no possibility for making somehow new chariot model for 2 pulling animals? :) Or second animal could be added to current model but only new animation need to be done for it?
P.S. Also Dain, if you have model of those wild boars and chariot, maybe you can deliver it to team, if they see it as good one. Maybe that boar model could be used. :)
Kind regards.
Fredius:
--- Zitat von: CragLord am 6. Nov 2015, 15:56 ---And concerning those epic wild boars. The best way of using them is to make them more unique in game. And my suggestion is to integrate them only in Kings Dain War Chariot ability. Those summoning chariots are unique and they should become even more unique by adding those boars as pulling animals. Reason for this is that as you have said they represent Royal Crest for Dain's House. So this touch will be great in Erebor, King Dain have saved his royal family symbol. And in Iron Hills this is already integrated in term of Lord Dains personal pig mount. So keep boars unique and add them only in this ability. Simply I wouldn't like to see that all of chariots are pulled by royal animal of Lord Dain's House. It would lost that unique touch if whole Iron Hills faction will have boars for chariots.
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Excellent idea! I can live with that! This is a perfect middle-way for people who like or don't like boars. To be honest I think it would be good to also give Dain a boar instead of a pig, but that's a matter for another discussion topic :).
CragLord:
Some of earlier Dain's picture which describes those royal chariots in the best way:
I have always imagined those boars only for Lord Dain Ironfoot, not for Iron Hills wide usage. :) So in this case, for King Dain. ;)
P.S. I really like topic Dain! :)
+10 from me. ;)
LordDainIronfoot:
Well I most than pleased and happy that so many people agree and like the Topic! :-) It is an honor for me! :-)
Now you guys got ahead of me,I was going to create a Thread about King Dain II Chariot Summon and was going to suggest to Summon basically Iron Hills War Chariot with Crossbow but Pulled by Armored Boar,to represent Dain's Past ad Lord of the Iron Hills and his House Crest too!?
What you think about that!? :-)
Also I agree of using only Different Kinds of Goat! :-)
Oh thank you Crag you are flattering me I really don't deserve it it is just another of my Dwarven Threads ! :-)
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