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tolgayurdal:
Many thanks for support. It was a gift for the ones who provided good times about Tolkien universe. Apparently we need to wait until it is constructed, if the team would approve it after Misty Mountains. As always, the time is very precious for everyone.

Best regards.

dkbluewizard2:
I just wanted to add this as another thought. Tolgayurdal, you have some awesome concepts. But one of the concepts I reread on Dorwinion I think would be more suitable here for the following reasons:

Like Durin VII, his power doesn't reach fruition until the fourth age. So maybe one of the ringheroes could be Herumor (from the New Shadow) since his name comes from Umbar, he would most likely be here in the third age, and since he is the future antagonist of the 4th age, I would think him to be a perfect candidate for the One Ring.

What say you my friend? Maybe add him as a ring hero with the other three?

tolgayurdal:
Thanks for feedback and kind words my friend :) Men of Darkness and Dorwinion concepts are my first proposals as far as i remember and both haven't accepted officially yet, maybe ever won't.

When i prepared them, the main theme was gathering low men (Easterlings and Southrons) and giving them a place under Black Numenoreans for Men of Darkness faction. So the chieftains meant to be natural ring heroes as leaders of their tribes. Can Priest or Templar Knight be a ring heroes? Yes they can, but in my opinion, this might bring unfairness to the rest. The player would captures the one for Black Numenorean hero who probably would be far too strong than low men. This would limit the scale of ring hero roster in practice, also i think it would be out of main theme and that's why their character stories can not get the one ring as i wrote them.

Herumor and Dorwinion are different cases firstly. As all factions, Mysterious Land concept tells a story that how to perform about business and peace with various races. The truth is that New Shadow subject solves many problems about dark side of grey faction which has been started but unfinished by Professor. Also Herumor inside of it has a role that 'beginner of secret cult', in this perspective his ring form evolves to another position in the faction. So i believe that would not be fitting for Men of Darkness concept.

However all of them are just my thoughts about two missing factions. ET has not declared anything about those which i don't expect it any time soon. I hope it is not too much, just wanted to share my ideas.

Best Regards.

dkbluewizard2:
Hey Tolgayurdal,

I respect your opinion and concepts. The only reason I brought Herumor up is due the canonical nature of his character and the etymology of his name. They are both set with the Black Numenorians in Umbar. As you said though, Dorwinion is a mysterious faction that holds a lot of mysteries to it.

That said, I know that Edain always likes to have a canonical bases for implementing new concepts (ex: Durin VII). So to see your concept of Herumor accepted--this was my thought and why I suggested him to be placed with the Men of Darkness, so he could have a canonical bases with his name and origin.

I know it is fun to speculate. Could I inquire you to do another concept? I had an idea for another faction that I wanted to discuss with you (it would be evil) and it wouldn't take up Dorwinion or Men of Darkness slot. Would you mind if I discussed another evil faction with you and draft a concept?

tolgayurdal:
Sure, there is nothing wrong to discuss anything. In a suitable thread, you can share your thoughts and then i express mine. It is only matter of implementability due to parameters such as being canonicle, subject that based on story, balance etc.

If it is possible, i might help to build that. Please, feel free to mention it.

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