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Re: Edain WIKI!!
« Antwort #15 am: 11. Jan 2016, 07:44 »
Guys... Guys... I've ran out of updates.... JK!! I doubt I'll ever run out of updates with this ever expanding wiki but they might become more spaced out going from daily to weekly to monthly. But for now let's stick with daily, we're going live at the Wiki to see what has changed:

-2 new sections (again)

     -youtube section: here's the spot to check out all your favorite Edain-mod youtube channels.

    -previous version: here you can download the previous edain version, but be weary not support will be offered by the edain team

- a help page!! having trouble editing check the help page here

-new infobox: Map Infobox: give specs about the referenced map uniformly throughout the whole Wiki!!

-more categories have been added (by guess who? Gimleux!! who else? :D)

-Every faction now has its own gallery with a bunch of images from the Edain mod and more coming on the way

-"And some things that should not have been forgotten were lost" 3 secret achievement now await you with their custom avatars, will you unlock the might of Galadriel, the tenacity of Gandalf or the knowledge of Elrond?

-some Wiki stats: 1,800 view in 4 DAYS!! Wow!! 500 edits and 50 pictures!! Seems like a good start.

-as usual various tweaks for added efficiency

When I first came upon this stats I was blasted away, 1,800 views in 4 days, that is nuts and we haven't even filled out most of the pages yet, what will it be like then? 18,000 a day? nah i'm just kidding but happy to see you guys are enjoying or at least viewing what's being done here. As always, i'm often on the chat and almost always available if you ever need to contact me.  I'd also like to remind everybody to sign up if you haven't, I can see what you did and i'd love if you got recognition for it but I can't give recognition to "A Wikia contributor" and also... this post
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Re: Edain WIKI!!
« Antwort #16 am: 12. Jan 2016, 16:06 »
The Badge Update (12/01/2016)
I gone and reworked all the badges. I've reset most of them as I wasn't happy with how they looked and I didn't ifn it fit their purpose. 4 new categories have been added to the badges: Mordor, Gondor, Rohan and Isengard. Everytime you edit a page related to any of these categories it will count toward the badges. The following categories of badges and what pages count towards each is listed below:
-Mordor: Faction Page, Sauron
-Isengard Faction Page, Ring Hero Page
-Rohan Faction Page, Ring Hero Page
-Gondor Faction Page, Arnor Faction Page, Arnor Ring Hero Page, Gondor Ring Hero Page, Gondor Ring Hero Page
Other edits have also been made:
-New Board: Editing Etiquette: To discuss your opinion on how pages should be edited.
-A German side to this wiki has been opened, it is currently not linked to this wiki but a request has been made. You can check it out  here. It is currently empty but you can contact Gimleux if you'd like to know more.
-A new section has been opened: Upgrades for all the upgrades in the game to be centered in one place with various images and description then linked back properly to each page
-All the galleries have been updated with new pictures
-other minor tweaks as always
« Letzte Änderung: 12. Jan 2016, 20:23 von The_Necromancer0 »
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Re: Edain WIKI!!
« Antwort #17 am: 15. Jan 2016, 18:23 »
Plugin Update (15/01/2016)
The goal of this wiki is allow the user to get the best experience editing and contributing to the Wiki. With that in mind I introduce the  Plugin Update!!! I've enabled custom JV and CSS on the wiki and added several add-ons that customize the user experience with various new features. The following features have been added:
-added to the Chat
     -!mods: This will allow users to ping all mods on the Special:Chat page, this allows for the user to verify the presence of wiki Staff if they require help
    -!kick: This will allow moderators to kick players from the page Special:Chat, it is a more pleasant alternative to banning the user
    -ChatAnnouncement: this allows users to "announce" specific things in the Special:Chat page, this should not be abused and shouldn't be constantly only once in a while.
    -ChatOptions: This allows admins to modify the appearance of the Special:Chat page, it will allow to customize it for special occasions.
    -ChatTags: This will allow users to give specific traits to their text such as different color text or bold/italic and others.
    -QuickModTools: this allows chat moderators to perform a range of actions that will allow the chat to be kept cleaner and nicer.

-Wiki Wide plugins
    -TopEditors: This will allow to add a page that will display the top X editors of the week. A very nice way to give a spotlight to the most helpful people.
     -DisplayClock: Handy little clock over the contribute button that helps with keeping track of the time, not much use but..why not?

All the plugins and how they work can be found at the Dev Wiki. Along with that other things have been done which are stated below.:
-The Wiki is proud to present its firstly finished page ever: Create a Hero. This page has been given all the information that could be drawn from Create a Hero 4.0 and is complete even though more tips can be added, check it out here.
-other tweaks have been done as usual to improve navigation in between the pages.

As you can see those are mostly chat updates but more will come, some might not be there immediately because they take a little longer to implement but they will come along to customize the wiki. I'm also very happy that we have managed to finish the first page and more will follow, I haven't decided what to do yet with the finished page but I'll probably leave it open.
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Re: Edain WIKI!!
« Antwort #18 am: 15. Jan 2016, 23:06 »
Three new plugins have been added and are awaiting approval:

-ExtendedNavigation: This will allows admins to add a 4th and 5ht sub-menu to the Top Navigation.

-AddNavMenuItems: This will allow admins to add more than the maximum amount of Top menus, and submenus. This will allow to expand the wiki further.

-Tooltips: This will show summaries of the page that the hyperlink directs to.
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Re: Edain WIKI!!
« Antwort #19 am: 16. Jan 2016, 20:33 »
Hey Necromancer,

I'm interested in helping make this wiki. What sort of stuff do you think I can help with?
TFM

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Re: Edain WIKI!!
« Antwort #20 am: 16. Jan 2016, 20:45 »
Literally anything.
But if you're looking for some inspiration and a smaller project I'd love if someone checked/edited the Installation and Multiplayer pages. Editing the wiki isn't something constraining you can do it in any order you want, you can decided to add all the spellbook powers to each faction or fill out a particular faction, anything you want. So far the pages most advanced are
-Create a Hero (complete 1st draft)
-Mordor
-Gondor
-Iron Hills
-Gollum

That's a short list but it's just to give you an idea. Also remember if you have any suggestion or if something goes through your mind and you think it could be worth to do something with it there is an entire forum to discuss the Edain mod wiki or just other stuff. I've already seen a couple of your edits and it looks pretty good.
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Re: Edain WIKI!!
« Antwort #21 am: 16. Jan 2016, 20:52 »
Cool thanks I'll try and put some ideas up in the forum over there
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Re: Edain WIKI!!
« Antwort #22 am: 17. Jan 2016, 14:29 »
The problem with the english one was the afk admin. Without them it would have been impossible to modify the background or the icon like I did on the new one. Obviously I have forgotten to connect the one I created with the german version which I will do. Understand me, if you look at this you'll see that I was really hyped about this and I started editing like crazy, but all my admin related posts have remained unanswered and so I decided to create a new one where major customization could take place. Without an admin, users will only ever be able to fill the slots given to them, with an admin those slots can be expanded, changed shaped, ect... you get the metaphor.


Hello,

I am the admin for the other two wikis which were founded earlier. In the last time I have nod had time to administrate both wikis. I also didn't get any notification about your message which was sent via wikia. My apologizes for this. Nevertheless, I has always been contactable via modding union. Please, try to contact me this way next time.

I really like the work you have done on your wiki, and I would like to integrate the content of both wikis (yours and my) to one wiki. To archive this, I gave kolibri8 admin rights in both of my wikis (the English and German one). Additionally, I gave you admin rights in the English one.

The discussion of the older wiki can be found in http://forum.modding-union.com/index.php/topic,5545.0.html (Unfortunately,  it is in German)


For a good teamwork in the future.

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Re: Edain WIKI!!
« Antwort #23 am: 17. Jan 2016, 18:08 »
Zitat
   
   
Merging the pages
By The Necromancer0

First I'd like to discuss the format that each page will take once exported here. My goal and the mission of the wiki is to supply the information to the users with the minimal amount of clicks, however it has been pointed out that it made the page long and unattractive. Therefore it has been discussed that the pages should remain similar to the Mordor page but have the heroes as separate pages so that images could be added and to reduce the length of the article.

Next I'd need someone from the Edain.wikia.com to make a contribution of some sort to create a user page so that they gain admin. This person will act as the link between the two wikis but must be a user that Yilvina can confirm as trustworthy.

Third, you'll need to get in contact with Gimleux who is the founder of the German side of that Wiki so that the merge between both german side can happen.

Finally, we will talk about the future of the merged wiki, announce a date for the merge and make sure that everybody on all 4 wikis is aware.

How does that sound?


Hi,

first about the page structure: We first planed to create a pfd handbook for edain. But, this handbook would have been to long with to many text and to many details. This was one reason to swap to the wiki was that the wiki offers us a better way to structure the information by using many pages which are connected by links. In the German wiki, we created many pages: Please hava a look on  http://de.edain.wikia.com/wiki/Gondor.  Thus, I perfer many pages like in your mordor page.

We also must discuss which domain will be kept. So will we merge yours in ours or do the opposite?



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Re: Edain WIKI!!
« Antwort #24 am: 17. Jan 2016, 18:22 »
I would prefer to use your domain name but I fear we may therefore lose all the customizing I have done which has taken many hours of my time, additionally I think that there is much more information/pages on edain-mod wiki but I might be wrong. I understand that you really like the many pages since they shorten articles but however many of the pages end up being stubs. If I take by example the pages you created for the buildings of Gondor not only are they short but they are exact repeats of the description. Therefore I think that:
-Building should all be kept on the faction page without page links
-Units should all be kept on the faction page without page Link
-Heroes should link to external pages with a short lore-summary on the faction page
-The Spellbook should all be kept on the faction page without page link
-The Upgrades should have the requirements stated on the faction page but link to an page link where all the updates will be centralized.
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Re: Edain WIKI!!
« Antwort #25 am: 17. Jan 2016, 18:42 »
For the English wiki, I belive that your one has much more content and spent time.
For the German one it is the opposite. But two different urls is also bad...

We also shall discuss which layout to take. Both wikis shall have more or less the same design. The current German layout has some drawbacks.

Where do you have your background pictures from in your design? We should be carefully with copy rights and only use pictures which we are allowed to use.

About the amount of pages: What is the oppionion of your others?



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Re: Edain WIKI!!
« Antwort #26 am: 17. Jan 2016, 18:47 »
Well, I kinda agree with The_Necromancer. I think it's better to have everything in one page or so. :)


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Re: Edain WIKI!!
« Antwort #27 am: 17. Jan 2016, 20:02 »
For the background pictures I made myself from two pictures available on various image sharing websites.
As for the different URL I don't think it is so much of an issue as long as it is properly advertised. The way I see it is that it will rare that users will look for both wikis with the url but you might be right
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Re: Edain WIKI!!
« Antwort #28 am: 17. Jan 2016, 20:03 »
I would prefer to use your domain name but I fear we may therefore lose all the customizing I have done which has taken many hours of my time, additionally I think that there is much more information/pages on edain-mod wiki but I might be wrong.

According to the "Help:Merging wikias" article I linked above (on page one of this thread):
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Any redirected domain name can become the primary URL for the merged wikias, if the community chooses.

Which means, we could still use the URL edain.wikia.com as primary URL, while edain-mod.wikia.com will redirect to edain.wikia.com, yet have all Content including the Customizations of edain-mod.wikia.com.
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Re: Edain WIKI!!
« Antwort #29 am: 17. Jan 2016, 20:10 »
That's one issues solved now three remain (i think):
-German side: Do we merge both but keep the edain.wikia.com as primary?
-Layout: Have we agreed on a layout or are we still discussing?
-You said there were drawbacks withe german side layout of edain.wikia.com, could you be more specific?
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