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The Axe of Doriath
The Witch-King of Angmar:
Thank you, I am glad to be part of such community, I will surely check out those two topics.
Dain@:
I'm for the idea! I take a moment I want to ask the community: (a small lyrical digression) Maybe we should strengthen and Beorn in the game? After all, he also deserves attention! Creative idea strengthen Grimbeorn good! but Beorn was stronger Grimbeorna! And actually we get the opposite! Maybe we should give some impetus to the development of Beorn! And it would be true and canonical?!?
Ectheldir:
I'm new to this forum but already read a bit around here to see what awaits Edain in the upcoming versions.
To the matter at hand: I really like the general concept, but I would propose a little change. In my opinion it would make a lot more sense to name the axe "The Axe of Brethil" instead of "The Axe of Doriath". I know Brethil is even a part of Doriath, so there is no huge difference, but if I hear the name Doriath I think of elves who live protected from most threats in the belt of Melian. If they would have to fight, they would strike their enemies down with bow and arrow from the cover of there forest (like Beleg Cuthalion). And if they were forced to fight an enemy head on, they would probably fight them rather with a sword than with an axe. Can you imagine an elf fighting with an axe? I can't. That just doesn't fit.
The men of Brethil on the other hand lived at the border of Doriath (as many of the men from the Vales of Anduin lived at the border of Mirkwood), outside the protection of Melians belt. So they were always threatened by hordes of Orcs that passed through their forest, to raid it, or just to pass down south. They were the ones that had to desperately protect their forest. And and an axe is a far more fitting weapon to them than to the elves of Doriath.
Walküre:
--- Zitat von: Dain@ am 27. Jan 2017, 07:54 ---Maybe we should give some impetus to the development of Beorn! And it would be true and canonical?!?
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The core of the concept has also to do with the idea of the endurance of the people of the woods and with Grimbeorn leading them. Whereas Beorn operates in a more, let's say, solitary context (a spell); so, should you have some ideas to propose, those ideas ought inevitably to be applied to Beorn's specific case.
As this thread is centred on a very defined topic, I thus suggest you post your brief or more structured suggestions in the appropriate places (a new thread or, as I deem better, the brief suggestions thread).
Ectheldir, thank you for sharing your very insightful opinions. Albeit agreeing with your own considerations in a purely lore-related perspective, I would rather maintain the current title unaltered. As you stated, Doriath is nonetheless the main theme of the matters involved; furthermore, most importantly, we should also consider the fact that it is Galadriel who gives him this special axe and she has in fact enchanted this weapon with her magic. There is thus the conceptual meaning of the magical/spiritual legacy of Doriath/Melian which inspires Woodsmen to fight even in the disenchanted Third Age of Arda. In light of all these elements, the wider reference to Doriath (and to Melian equally) shall symbolise those significant properties.
It was really interesting to know your thoughts about this concept. There are other important concepts that have been recently finalised, dealing with absolutely lore-related aspects (Narya, Isengard and Galadriel). I'm really curious to read what you think about them :)
Bilbo Backings:
I gladly support this great proposal!
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