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Trondheim9:

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--- Zitat von: Trondheim9 am 10. Nov 2016, 18:28 ---Regarding the "Monster" category, perhaps we could rename this.  As Julio said, the units in this category are creatures, not human/elf/dwarf/etc.  So why not just call it the "Creature" category?  It's more neutral, and the poor ents will no longer have to be indignant about being called monsters.

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I like this idea. Would Gwaihir, the ent heroes and the Troll heroes be a part of this group?

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I think we should include them, yes. 

The_Necromancer0:

--- Zitat von: OakenShield224 am 10. Nov 2016, 18:38 ---I like this idea. Would Gwaihir, the ent heroes and the Troll heroes be a part of this group?

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I disagree, in that case we should also add every hero depending on whether they're cavalry, archers, pikemen or swordsmen. I see hero and unit as different branches of the category tree, each with its own separate set of sub-categories which shouldn't intertwine. But I'd love to hear everybody's thoughts.


--- Zitat von: Trondheim9 am 10. Nov 2016, 18:28 ---Regarding the "Monster" category, perhaps we could rename this.  As Julio said, the units in this category are creatures, not human/elf/dwarf/etc.  So why not just call it the "Creature" category?  It's more neutral, and the poor ents will no longer have to be indignant about being called monsters.

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Agree, I'll use the Wiki Bot if everybody agrees to rename everything.

Here's how I think we should do reorganize categories:
Each unit will have one of the 7 main categories:
-Swordsmen
-Pikemen
-Archer
-Cavalry
-Creature
-Siege
-Support
and in addition they will also gain, if necessary, one of the additional categories of either Elite or Heroic. A couple examples:
Tower Guards: Pikemen and Elite
Shadow Guard: Swordsmen and Heroic
Morgul Archer: Archers and Elite
Royal Guard: Cavalry and Heroic
Drummer Troll: Creature and Elite
ect...

If Garlodur wishes I will split the topic starting from his original reply into a new thread since this is getting quite off topic from the original purpose of this thread. On the newly created thread we can continue discussing the reorganization of categories.

Gandalf7000:

--- Zitat von: The_Necromancer0 am 11. Nov 2016, 18:15 ---
--- Zitat von: OakenShield224 am 10. Nov 2016, 18:38 ---I like this idea. Would Gwaihir, the ent heroes and the Troll heroes be a part of this group?

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I disagree, in that case we should also add every hero depending on whether they're cavalry, archers, pikemen or swordsmen. I see hero and unit as different branches of the category tree, each with its own separate set of sub-categories which shouldn't intertwine. But I'd love to hear everybody's thoughts.


--- Zitat von: Trondheim9 am 10. Nov 2016, 18:28 ---Regarding the "Monster" category, perhaps we could rename this.  As Julio said, the units in this category are creatures, not human/elf/dwarf/etc.  So why not just call it the "Creature" category?  It's more neutral, and the poor ents will no longer have to be indignant about being called monsters.

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Agree, I'll use the Wiki Bot if everybody agrees to rename everything.

Here's how I think we should do reorganize categories:
Each unit will have one of the 7 main categories:
-Swordsmen
-Pikemen
-Archer
-Cavalry
-Creature
-Siege
-Support
and in addition they will also gain, if necessary, one of the additional categories of either Elite or Heroic. A couple examples:
Tower Guards: Pikemen and Elite
Shadow Guard: Swordsmen and Heroic
Morgul Archer: Archers and Elite
Royal Guard: Cavalry and Heroic
Drummer Troll: Creature and Elite
ect...

If Garlodur wishes I will split the topic starting from his original reply into a new thread since this is getting quite off topic from the original purpose of this thread. On the newly created thread we can continue discussing the reorganization of categories.

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Drummer troll imo shouldn't be Elite, they are not much stronger than ordinary trolls, they just provide bonus to nearby units.
Creature category seems nice.

Julio229:
Maybe Drummer Trolls could be support and creatures?

OakenShield224:
I agree with the category ideas and the ideas about the heroes that Necro mentioned. I agree that Drummer Trolls seem more like support units than elite units.

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