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lordoflinks:

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--- Zitat von: lordoflinks am  5. Jan 2017, 12:49 ---As usual your concepts never fail to amaze.
The one fault I have but is that when Cirdan gives Gandalf the ring he states:
"Take this ring, master," he said, "for your labours will be heavy; but it will support you in the weariness that you have taken upon yourself. For this is the Ring of Fire, and with it you may rekindle hearts in a world that grows chill."
This implies Gandalf uses the ring to bolster those around him rather than his own powers, and as much as I hate to say it; I am Against the proposed implementation at the moment, as it just does not sit right with me, the concept is wonderfully proposed but in order for it to sit right with me there needs to be some sort of interaction between Narya and other units/ heroes.

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I appreciate the fact that you liked the form, but it also saddens me a bit that you disagree with the content. I absolutely respect your opinion though. As I both pointed out here and in our discussion about Gandalf, hope-infusing properties are lore-accurate indeed, but I can guarantee you that Gandalf will never be given any kind of leadership on any unit: his role is the one of a solitary mass-slayer. He's the mightiest hero of the faction, yet other heroes are supposed to be leaders in Gondor.

So, as I suggested, the only way to find a compromise is to view Gandalf's leadership of the Good as the power of his impressive spells (whenever he fights the Evil). Otherwise, there is no space left for additions of the sort you referred to. The leadership issue was in fact one of the major causes that caused many past proposals to sink. We didn't want to make the same mistake.

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To clarify my view the thing is I like the idea, I think it is a good way to incorporate Narya, and I would be more than happy with if it included with some sort of leadership but without the leadership it seems to give Narya to Gandalf just for the sake of giving him Narya.
It saddens me too I disagree, because while my reason is for the idea my heart is against it, and I hate having to disagree with one of your beautiful ideas.
Thank you for explaining the reasoning behind the lack of leadership, I shall go with my reason now and say I am for the concept, as this does seem to be the only way. 

Hamanathnath:
A wonderfully proposed idea as always. ;)  I am for this implementation of Narya.

Fredius:
Absolutely in favor. The stances system will make Gandalf an even more interesting hero. Since both Imladris and Gondor are set during the War of the Ring, it is only logical to give Narya to Gandalf :).

dkbluewizard:
I am for this concept clearly as it is lore accurate, but I do feel something has to go on Gandalf's standard Narya use, perhaps that could be where he gives leadership to allies as LordofLinks has suggested, but if we can't give Gandalf leadership in the standard icon, then Narya should do something balanced. I think the leadership wouldn't hurt as Gandalf had Leadership in BFME1.

Gandalf7000:

--- Zitat von: DieWalküre am  5. Jan 2017, 13:08 ---
--- Zitat von: Gandalf7000 am  5. Jan 2017, 13:05 ---I Agree with this suggestion. Let's give Narya a proper spot in the mod!!! :)

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I knew you wanted to have your Ring of Power back  xD

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"Against the power of Gandalf, there can be no victory!" :D

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