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Imladris Ring Hero Ideas

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Aranruth:
Hi everyone. Just to be clear, I really like the Fellowship as the Ring hero unit of Imladris. But I also think having the Fellowship as an Imladris unit creates a problem, because I also wish that some of the Fellowship could also be temporary summons.

For example, it would be incredibly cool and unique for Imladris to have a temporary White Council summon. However, we couldn't do that at the moment because there would be potentially 2 Gandalf heroes present in the same faction at once. Is there a way to code it so that Gandalf disappears from the Fellowship and appears with the White Council if such a power was activated? My gut reaction says that this wouldn't work, but it would be neat if it could.

Also, I would love for Arwen's final power to be replaced with a temporary Aragorn summon, because I think the banner is a little underwhelming. But again, we would face the same issues as before.

So I wanted to see if anyone had any ideas for ring hero alternatives.
Some that come to mind:

Tom Bombadil, Guardian of the Ring...permanently summons Tom Bombadil to the map as a controllable hero. In the books, it was suggested that Tom be given the ring, so that is where this idea comes from.

Elrond the Blessed: Elrond rejects the ring and is blessed by the Valar. Similar to Galadriel's or Saruman's "Blessed" feature.

Bilbo Baggins: Permanently summons old Bilbo to the battlefield at level 10, with a variety of useful abilities. He wouldn't be empowered by the ring, but would be given incredible stealth capabilities.

Rivendell's Blessing: Elrond rejects the ring, granting the Valar's blessing upon Rivendell's heroes. Grants a large discount for heroes and buffs the armor and damage of all heroes on the battlefield.

So, anyway...like I said, I really like the current ring hero. But, if we could find another good alternative, I think Imladris would benefit by being able to summon certain members of the fellowship in other powers.

FG15:

--- Zitat ---Is there a way to code it so that Gandalf disappears from the Fellowship and appears with the White Council if such a power was activated? My gut reaction says that this wouldn't work, but it would be neat if it could.
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No, that's the reason, why the council of Elrond Spell was removed from Rivendell.

Walküre:
The Fellowship as the faction's own Ring feature is the option that makes sense the most, at the end of the day. If you think about it, Elrond becoming High King via the One Ring (the old concept) was problematical due to the involvement of such evil artefact, him being blessed is not a very consistent of a proposal, given the lack of that temptation motive which characterises Galadriel and the absence of any fault on Elrond's part (he had not partaken in the rebellion against the Valar), Bilbo does not give the idea of an appealing choice as a Ring Hero and the good and old Tom being permanent seems to me not enough unique (he's already present in the spellbook).

The Fellowship is totally in tune with the atmosphere of the War of the Ring and its implementation explores the theme at the heart of LOTR and of the first chapter of the trilogy, conveying the cinematographic feeling we expect the Edain Mod to be based on.

Canis carcharothias:
I, also, don't think that there is a better option for the ring hero. The team has hit right in the spot here.

Aranruth:
I totally get that, like I said, I really like the current mechanic.
The fact that two different factions can have the same permanently summonabke character is problematic to me. So, now you can have Imladris' Fellowship fighting Aragorn and Gandalf from Gondor, AND now with 4.5, you also face Rohan's Three Hunters. So, you can potentially have three permanent Aragorns fighting eachother. Temporary summons are a different matter, as they follow different rules when it comes to timelines and continuity(ie Last Alliance summon).

I also think that finding an alternative to Imladris' ring mechanic would allow for other Lore- appropriate dynamics that would be really unique and beneficial to the overall feel of the faction like a White Council summon or Aragorn summon for Arwen.

Just to be clear, I'm not trying to cause conflict. I think the Edain team has successfully created one of the best LOTR games ever. I simply want to discuss the current mechanics and see if there are better alternatives. Open discussion is one of the things that makes this mod truly great.

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