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Smaug, the Chiefest and Greatest of Calamities

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esparado87:
Yeah, about Smaug being a ring hero AND FLYING WHILE AT IT...

Doesn't this mean that if Smaug dies on unpassable mountain terrarin or over water then the ring becomes impossible to get (i guess you could wait out for Gollum to take  back the ring...even though it would take some time)?

I think this was the reason why you could not use units/heros with ring on transport boat and Witch King could not fly with the ring in the vanilla game.

AulëTheSmith:

--- Zitat von: esparado87 am 25. Okt 2017, 15:04 ---Yeah, about the Smaug being a ring hero AND FLYING WHILE AT IT...

Does't this mean that if Smaug dies on unpassable mountain terrarin or over water then the ring becomes impossible to get (i guess you could wait out for Gollum to take  back the ring...even though it would take some time)?

I think this was the reason why you could not use units/heros with ring on transport boat and Witch King could not fly with the ring in the vanilla game.

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Hi esparado :) welcome to the discussion ;)
I did not think about these issues. Probably also in the 3.8.1 patch there were these issues since Smaug was a ring feature (and he could fly). But,you know, we cannot avoid totally any problem. I don't know what could be a possible solution. Btw, what do you think about the very core of the concept? :)

Gnomi:
If I remember correctly the ring stayed in the treasury in 3.81. So Smaug didn't loose it upon death.
But esparado is correct - this was a reason why Smaug never was a normal ring hero in edain. Also this is a really big issue and not a small problem, which should never be overlooked in a concept. Just imagine you're playing and you can see the ring all the time, but you can't reach it, because it lays 2 meters away in a mountain area. This is just frustrating for every player without much counterplay.

AulëTheSmith:

--- Zitat von: Gnomi am 25. Okt 2017, 21:04 ---If I remember correctly the ring stayed in the treasury in 3.81. So Smaug didn't loose it upon death.
But esparado is correct - this was a reason why Smaug never was a normal ring hero in edain. Also this is a really big issue and not a small problem, which should never be overlooked in a concept. Just imagine you're playing and you can see the ring all the time, but you can't reach it, because it lays 2 meters away in a mountain area. This is just frustrating for every player without much counterplay.

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Hi Gnomi, thank you very much for your feedback :) now I remember. Currently we cannot sadly repeat the same function, due to the new ring system, so...I have no idea how to solve this issue, neither I think there is a way to avoid the drop in not walking regions like water or something else via coding... :(

Fredius:

--- Zitat von: Gnomi am 25. Okt 2017, 21:04 ---If I remember correctly the ring stayed in the treasury in 3.81. So Smaug didn't loose it upon death.
But esparado is correct - this was a reason why Smaug never was a normal ring hero in edain. Also this is a really big issue and not a small problem, which should never be overlooked in a concept. Just imagine you're playing and you can see the ring all the time, but you can't reach it, because it lays 2 meters away in a mountain area. This is just frustrating for every player without much counterplay.

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But I presume that you tackled this issue with the new Gollum system right? If the Ring is temporarily unavailable because of this, then that's something I'd be willing to accept for making Smaug a Ring-hero.

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