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Smaug, the Chiefest and Greatest of Calamities

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NoldorSithLordsShipwright:
Yes, you make count me as in favor.

AulëTheSmith:
After reflecting more deeply, and taking into account all the variables, maybe it would be wise and balanced to remove the effect of conversion form all the ring heroes (both in normal and ring form), which usually are also the leaders of their respective factions.
Apart of lore reasons, which not in any case are easy to evaluate ( we can only make Theories of what could happen if various heroes cross Smaug's magic gaze), also from a gameplay perspective is better to make a general and balance consideration which is as much as possible equal for al the faction.
In conclusion, only the two other effect I listed for Sauron should affect the main leaders of the faction.
About Nazgul and these type of creatures I sincerely don't know what has to be done, from a lore and logic perspective I would exclude them, but in a gameplay perspective I would include them.
In general all the heroes will be affected by the effect 2-3 which will be about stunnig effect and sharing of the sight. I will craft the concept for Smaug later  ;)

dkbluewizard:
Aule, have you also considered what would happen if the Nazgul were taken over? I mean they draw power from Sauron, I mean their level is his level/rank. So if you convert them, would that be a coding issue? Could they even do anything? I don't personally know. That is why I think there should be a list of heroes who are affected and who aren't. That way like you said there is balance and the ability is still effective.

I mean, just because I can't control Sauron or Gandalf, doesn't mean the ability is useless, converting Mollock or Denethor can still be traumatic to the enemy. So as stated earlier, make a list of heroes who would be affected by Smaug's gaze so that we have something better to go on and implement.

AulëTheSmith:

--- Zitat von: dkbluewizard am 21. Nov 2017, 21:26 ---Aule, have you also considered what would happen if the Nazgul were taken over? I mean they draw power from Sauron, I mean their level is his level/rank. So if you convert them, would that be a coding issue? Could they even do anything? I don't personally know. That is why I think there should be a list of heroes who are affected and who aren't. That way like you said there is balance and the ability is still effective.

I mean, just because I can't control Sauron or Gandalf, doesn't mean the ability is useless, converting Mollock or Denethor can still be traumatic to the enemy. So as stated earlier, make a list of heroes who would be affected by Smaug's gaze so that we have something better to go on and implement.

--- Ende Zitat ---

Yes, bugs could be a problem too in that case, and for ring heroes in general. I crafted a first draft of the power it should be sufficiently balanced. It is visible in the main concept.
 If anyone more lore-master than me has something to suggest me then feel totally free to express yourself  :). Especially about the Drak Lord and Ring wraith.

dkbluewizard:
Well just read my above list of heroes that should or shouldn't be affected. I say we have a discussion here. If you feel someone on my list (as shown above) should/shouldn't be affected, state why and the source.

Aule, one of the things I am thankful for is your devotion and skill to this craft--my nit pickiness is just that and nothing more. It is tied to the lore, so if I seem like a broken record...it is because I am and I have no soul  ;)

JK, but joking aside, I do support this ability full heartily I have said that numerous times. I think the list I presented is a perfect place to resource on who Smaug could affect with his gaze.

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