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SP19XX:
So after some discussion with Oakenshield & Walkure on the Discord chat another proposition we came up with for both Treebeard & Quickbeam to have diverse benefits from the gifts of Galadriel was to again repurpose the old gift that Sam used to contribute but in a new manner that works more closely with the nature of Ents.

In this Quickbeam - the more aggressive and fragile of the Two Ents would retain the Ewer Gift (assisting with his aggressive nature & sustaining him). While Treebeard would obtain the repurposed gift in the following format;


--- Zitat ---Seed Bed of Yavanna
Plants a seed bed on which a Huorn will sprout after a few seconds. If a new seed bed is planted the existing Huorn leaves, turning the seed bed into a forested area.
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For effective purposes - the current image of the seeds belonging to Sam could still be used.

With this it promotes two aspects of Treebeard's characterisation: The shepphard of the forest who is able to control the usually wild Huorns to act on his behalf and his desire to bring back the forestry which was destroyed at the hands of Saruman in his greed for power of industry. This power would act for defensive purposes - allowing Treebeard to call upon a Huorn with permanent duration to protect a set location (so while the Spellbook power conjures up many in a large area one solitary huorn is called to act as a permanent defensive unit) giving them diverse and contrasting purposes as the Spellbook Power is designed to be used in a more offensive manner.

The addition then of when being used in a different area causing the seed bed to collapse and be replaced with a forested area then serves two purposes; limiting the power of the ability so that only one Huorn can be called at a time but also giving a forested area that can be used as a target of their new spellbook powers & captilize on the stealth themed aspect of the faction while still conveying the portrayal of undoing the damage that Saruman had inflicted upon the landscape - as once the Huorn leaves the seed bed can flourish into it's own enchanted forested area.

From a lore perspective - Ents & Huorns are creations of Yavanna - And as such a gift born of the power of another Valar or Maiar did not seem appropriate for Treebeard - it also ties the presence of Yavanna into the faction even further as the only such representation of these at the moment exist as the Ents themselves and the Spellbook Powers of the Huorns & of Radagast.

Tiberius Ogden:
I really like that suggestion that follows our debate above, I also thought about implementing permanent huorns, such a pitty when finally are in the mod, they are only temporal. So implement permanent huorn for defensive purpose is also "back to roots" idea, cause huorn, only one huorn, was firstly presented by Edain team as a defensive tool, via spellbook.

I would only remove "forested area" because it is too similar to central spell and maybe even strong for pure gift which also generates huorn. So I've added only "regular tree" after huorn is destroyed or replaced. Such tree can receive blessing from spellbook spell and then will heal, but won't work as a hidden area - that is task for central spell or for mist.


--- Zitat ---Seed Bed of Yavanna
Plants a seed bed on which a Huorn will sprout after a few seconds. If a new seed bed is planted the existing Huorn leaves, turning the seed bed into a regular tree.
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Walküre:
Someone, quite suspiciously and in secrecy, has sent me this brilliant icon sporting Galadriel's sacred ewer. If I have to tell, I dare say that this little helper from the outer places of the forum will certainly aid the community in the future as well. Just ask, and you shall be given ;)



I thought it better to focus on this saintly, pure object. Having Galadriel pop up in the picture would have likely diverted attention from our renowned gift, since, as it's known to every sane fan, the Lady of Light always steals the scene 8-)


Furthermore, I do not come with empty hands in terms of background stories. Brace yourselves:


--- Zitat ---The Elven-queen is fabled and said to make usage of a vast panoply of blessed items. Whether it be for the benefit of her folk's skill or the good of all kindly living things abiding nigh the woods, she ever confers wisdom and precious tools to utilise in dire need, as sundown approaches and dusk is about to cast its long shadows on lands and waters. What gets marked by her charming touch is thereafter rendered a prodigy; a token of prime speed. Among such works of finesse are counted the Golden Wood's Ewers, bearers of crystalline drops and beads, to bring comfort to the thirsty and mend the grievous wounds plaguing the yore-dwellers of the green. Wherefore, it sometimes occurred that trees chanced at night to walk afield, along the common lanes of Middle-earth, unseen and unnoticed, to bathe and seek relief by the brooks of the Mistress of Magic's unsullied domain...

Very few but the sole Wise verily know that the exact art of water-cure was founded in the antique days of Doriath, when the Hither-Lands were still fraught with deeds, melded with either desperation or glorious remarkable events. An age of princes, fallen kings and ruthless devils. Within the heart of the vast central forests, however, reeds and saplings would reside soundly and fain, behind the sundry shields of the Angel-queen whom fables oft recount.

GALADRIEL: "Well-fashioned Ewer of mine, you have served Immortals, mankind, beasts and fowls. The ken which made your form was born in yester-times. Shires now sunken nether western tides, that once were fullness of might and splendour, and yet darkened by sweeping dread, for the Iron Mountains raged aloud amidst frost and flames.

Nevertheless, great store of light was hoarded inside halls of stainless making, held by one forefather of the Elvish kindred. Beside him was a spirit of yonder, bespoken as marvellous enchantress of old and belonging to the bright kind that treads the deathless ways beyond the earthly blues. Beneath cloven bastions and hallowed boughs much I have learnt and was taught; marvel, arts and forgotten wisdom. Streams would carry anointed waters to and fro, hither and thither, for every subject, sentient or not, to partake in the merrymaking of the jubilant woodland kingdom. Fresh nourishment reviving wasted roots and perished branches; holy aqua which sickness heals and cleanses for good. Pray, may you still be laden and welled with Lothlórien's river-soul, that washes dirt away and ailing trees rewards with vim."


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Tiberius Ogden:
When I started this thread, I stated that I want famous Gifts of Lorien to be really nice again. :)

Bottomless Ewer fulled with water from sacred Lothlorien streams, which permanently slowly heal and clean Lothlorien's environment and everything alive - thanks to great power of the ring of water - is really nice gift for agile and "young" but vulnerable Ent Quickbeam, from the same young elven queen.

Thanks again for wonderful story Walk! Pleasure to read. ;)

Now we should only decide, if Ewer will slowly heal only Quickbeam or surrounding ents as well. Treebeard provides quite a strong leadership for ents, but can't heal them ... and because ents are only siege weapons for Lothlorien, I would really consider heal for others via gift as well. Either way it will be really slow heal, nothing strong.
But it would be similar to Galadriel's ultimate spell.

Or ... permanent slow heal only for Quickbeam, but in addition, resistance to fire? It would make from agressive ent quite a threat on the battlefield and such resistance would be logical - water against fire. Water from Galadriel's ewer against fires of Isengard. ;)

Gandalf7000:
I like this gem suggestion, but why not make the gem silver or white, rather than green as it is said that Thranduil had a particular interest in white or silver gems, and Galadriel is the White Lady after all.

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