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The Hobbit Trilogy
CragLord:
--- Zitat von: korner am 27. Aug 2015, 00:40 ---Chill man. This board is for open discussion, which means you have to accept other users have different opinion to yours.
You always blame me for being rude, but if you analyze the matter correctly, it´s not me but you being rude.
I don´t call others who are severeal years older than me "boys", and besides that I´m active in this forum a while longer then you.
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Ok, about Legolas all is pure fun matter. xD That stone crushing scene for example, isn't possible in real world ofc. But I think PJ always goes over some real boundary when we speak about Legolas. (He was described in book like leaf, so maybe PJ again wanted to use that description and implement it in movie...)
Completely cool I am. :)
Rude? Because I called you boy? I didn't wrote that in term of years obviously, nevermind. Sorry if that hurt you in any possible way!
About you spent time on this forum, I respect that, but I will defend my opinion also. ;)
Well, about balistas idea is possible is some cases. All you wrote is true, that arrow couldn't fly straight through air like in trailer, but idea is possible. Main condition would be that ballista arrow is much more heavier than chain on its back (it is obviously some kind of chain, not blade). And that it is fired with enough energy ofc. ;)
korner:
--- Zitat von: LordDainIronfoot am 27. Aug 2015, 01:03 ---So korner what is exactly stupid!?The fact that PJ decided to.give the Dwarves some credit and pay a little bit more attention to them by showing that Dwarves are not just brutre strength and love only to drink and fight but also are great blacksmiths and engineers who came.up with such clever invention to counter the main advantage of the Elves!!And I do not see any problem with the physics even in real world there are somilar inventions and I do not see it so problematic or out of place!The fact that you don't like it doesn't make it bad or wrong in any way!
P.S. And it is not matter of who had been longer on this forum! :-)
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As Gnomi writes, I´d prefer it being accurate to the LotR movies more "realistic".
I don´t have any problem with the dwarves being clever, even with them being more clever then elves.
You may like every bit of the movie, that´s your right and I don´t blame anyone for liking the movies.
But if it´s allowed to say "I like the ballista" then it´s also allowed that I say I don´t like it.
That´s all. Where is the problem?
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you think too much man xD :D
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maybe ;)
I´d like to like the movie, but I simply can´t. Everybods has different preferences.
Gnomi:
Are you sure that they are the best blacksmiths? :P
What about the elves of the first age? Or the dwarves of the first age?
Would the dwarves be able to make the silmarils?
And even the best blacksmiths can't do anything, even they have their limits. The dwarven of the third age are really good, I won't say anything against it. But they can't use magic or something similar, which is always included in such weapons (at least when you look at all the other special weapons whicha re used in middleearth or in the edda.)
@ LordDainIronfoot:
I have explained it multiple times. I won't repeat it again. I ahve also explaiend how giants and so on were formed in the edda and tolkien used them in exactly the same way.
it wasn't tolkien's goal to make middleearth a completely different world (like world of warcraft does), but he wanted it to be very similar to the real world. Therefore I think that you CAN use our physics. Perhaps somewhere in the universe (so with our physics) there are some kind of trolls. We had dinosaurs in our world, even trolls could exist. And trolls are more or less just big, strong men.
And if you read my comment again you'll notice that I also wrote something about the magical rings there. So: I won't repeat it.^^
@ CragLord:
I still don't think that it's possible without magic. And dwarves weren't able to use magic, which is why the blades of the elves were always different and in some way better than dwarvish blades: They were able to use it.
So I would like some more indigenously technology of the dwarves and think that those would fit much better. (of course they could still be stronger and better than the normal technology. But the style of the technology just doesn't fit for the dwarves imo.
CragLord:
--- Zitat von: Gnomi am 27. Aug 2015, 01:17 ---@ CragLord:
I still don't think that it's possible without magic
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If we try to watch this from our realistic prospective, yes. They needed magic to contain kinetic energy of that arrow, so it could fly pretty straight. :D
Any way, I think in terms of which I wrote earlier, this situation is possible in some cases and on some level of its realization. ;)
Agree about technology mater in general. We could say that normal anti monster balista is more suitable for Iron Hills dwarves. :)
Gandalf The Gray:
--- Zitat von: Gnomi am 27. Aug 2015, 01:17 ---Are you sure that they are the best blacksmiths? :P
What about the elves of the first age? Or the dwarves of the first age?
Would the dwarves be able to make the silmarils?
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no but the elves of the first age dose not exist anymore some of them are alive but they are not blacksmiths of meddle earth so yes third age dwarfs are the best
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