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Walküre:

--- Zitat von: Saeros am 16. Feb 2016, 10:55 ---I must propose Glorfindel as the ring- hero too, but I suppose Cirdan is more suitable since he has never been in Valinor, he gave his ring willingly but with all the "ifs" I read above i suppose that this small story I wrote could happen taking under consideration the power of the One Ring and its ability to dominate even on the purest of souls.


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As far as I read and wrote so far, I would say that all those hypothetical situations were nonetheless characterised by a solid lore background, that makes all of them possible and not contradictory (not on a general level, at least)  :)

If you read the previous comments, you will see that I tried to give the proper explanation about why Glorfindel couldn't be a Ring Hero, and why I think it won't be so in the game.
Regarding Círdan, his usage of the One Ring would be too much contradictory, given that he doesn't have any ambitious desire of power if not guarding the Havens and guiding the few Eldar that still lingered in Middle Earth towards their final journey to the West.

Furthermore, it's highly unlikely, if not impossible, that the One Ring would have permitted the eternal endurance of the Eldar's realms; the One Ring's nature grants its bearer sensational powers, but at the cost of a gradual consumption and corruption of both mind and body (and, healing and preserving powers could never be part of its essence anyway).

Spacetyrant93:
Well, whatever concept the Team decided to follow for the Ring in Imladris, I'm sure it'll be interesting :) even though the anticipation's killing me...

However, I do hope Elrond is kept as an alternative. I must admit I really liked him with the Ring, and he looks damn spectacular as a High King!
Yeah, perhaps not too lore-ish, but as others have repeated the speculativeness of Ring Heroes over and over again, I believe Elrond would be as good as any other. Some make even less sense than him, lore-wise (Theoden never even saw the Ring), so I hope he can be kept, at least as an alternative :)

Saeros:
@ DieWalküre

--- Zitat ---If you read the previous comments, you will see that I tried to give the proper explanation about why Glorfindel couldn't be a Ring Hero, and why I think it won't be so in the game.
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I've read them all and that is why I came up with Cirdan as the ring- hero, obviously what you have said is correct but as you said

--- Zitat ---neither Elrond nor Glorfindel have ever had any interest or thought of using the One Ring
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so there could be Glorfindel as a ring- hero based on the same logic that Elrond is such.


--- Zitat ---Regarding Círdan, his usage of the One Ring would be too much contradictory, given that he doesn't have any ambitious desire of power if not guarding the Havens and guiding the few Eldar that still lingered in Middle Earth towards their final journey to the West.
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That is obvious but I tried to give a higly unlikely but plausible explanation about him wanting the One Ring.

For all the rest you posted you are once more correct since we all know by now (after all these times we're read the books and saw the movies) what the ring is capable of, but as you said

--- Zitat ---the One Ring's nature grants its bearer sensational powers, but at the cost of a gradual consumption and corruption of both mind and body
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that is why I proposed the drawbacks of Cirdan's powers given by the One Ring.

Linhir:
Cirdan/Glorfindel/Elrond as a ring heroes? Nah. Why? Because just one, small, simple fact about them... theyr'e too noble. They would die first, than let one ring to slowly corrupt them.

Walküre:
Saeros, what I wanted to say is that I and the other people involved tried to 'respect' those not specified rules/guidelines within certain lore boundaries, in order to have a rational continuity in this debate  :)

Actually, the argument is not valid.
Considering our reasoning, so far, Glorfindel couldn't be a Ring Hero because Elrond himself has high chances (high probabilities) of not being the Ring Hero of Imladris anymore.
This is what the thread is about: discussing about alternatives  ;)

Narya is the only one of the Three Rings that doesn't have a physical effect/influence on the environment in which is kept – taking into consideration the examples of the holy and timeless sanctuaries of Rivendell and Lothlórien – so that it wouldn't be logical suggesting that the One Ring could ever grant this prerogative to Círdan.
Narya never made the Havens an enchanted place.

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