The Company of...Eight?

[bookworm1138]

Let me just start out by saying that I really love the work that has been done on the mod, especially with the Dwarf factions.

It does kind of bother me that (in a future date when the Elves are released) the entire Fellowship may be summoned, all nine Ringwraiths...and only eight members of the Company permanently? (Dwalin, Balin, Thorin, Kili, Fili, Bofur, Bilbo and, if another Dwarf player/AI is on the map as Erebor, old Gloin). I guess the main reason would be that it would be difficult to create unique quotes and abilities for six more Dwarf heroes.

I wonder if there would be any way of implementing all the members of the Company as permanent summons, the same way Kili and Fili are with Thorin. Make them penultimate abilities (unlocked at lvls 7, 8 or 9).

[Gnomi]

The problem is that there is a maximum amount of heroes, you can add for a faction. As you have to combine all heroes of all three realms, you can't have many heroes for the dwarven faction, which are normally buildable. Summonable heroes would also loose all their levels after dying.

Those are two of the reasons why we don't have all heroes permanently.

The only possibility would be something like Fili&Kili, but I'm personally quite happy with the current implementation.^^

[LordDainIronfoot]

I am actually fine with the current system! I like how the Team implemended all Heroes in some way!And we do not have to forget that having so much Heroes will get complicated and hard to play and coordinate,so I think it is good the way it is!
The only thing that I am not so satisfied is that Balin is no longer playable in Erebor and Iron hills and that Dain is not playable in Ered Luin where for him I think wil lbe good to have some role after all he would help his keen if needed as shown in BoFA!
But that aside I think the Dwarven heroes are fine as they are!

[Tienety]

I like currect system for Ered Luin. I think this heroe group(similarly like Black riders) would be suitable for Erebor. Maybe Dain or Gloin(on level 10) can summon permanently or temporarily all surviving members of Thorin company (Dwalin, Bofur, Bifur, Dori and Nori). I think rest of the Thorin company probably also defended Erebor against easterlings in book.

Of course, they should have gray/white hairs and beards. Also, they can have Erebor armor from movie:

[LordDainIronfoot]

It is a good idea but I tihnk Gloin is better as being part of the Company itself and also I do not want to lose the cool power of Dain!

[Tienety]

It is a good idea but I tihnk Gloin is better as being part of the Company itself and also I do not want to lose the cool power of Dain!

I think Gloin should remain as normal hero. He had an important role in LOTR story. If Gloin is removed, who will be the new hero for Erebor?
Do you mean this Dain's summon barracks ability? 
This hero units would be more interesting ability than the only building. I have a feeling that Dain's summon building ability is not fit for bfme 1 building system. You disagree? 

[LordDainIronfoot]

Well I do not think the Summon Buildings is fiting so much may be a Summon a Battalion of Each Possible Dwarven Kingdom at the time,2 Battalions at once,Ered LUin,Iron hills,Grey Mountains and erc!
I think Gloin should summon them that is what I meant!

[Tienety]

Well I do not think the Summon Buildings is fiting so much may be a Summon a Battalion of Each Possible Dwarven Kingdom at the time,2 Battalions at once,Ered LUin,Iron hills,Grey Mountains and erc!
I think Gloin should summon them that is what I meant!

Oh, sorry. I guess you are right this summon would be better for Gloin on level 10. I think this battalion should have five abilities. One ability for every character in the group(Dwalin, Bofur, Bifur, Dori and Nori).

If I know Dain(iron Hills version) has very similar ability on level 10. But I have a solution and new ability for Dain in Iron Hills: 

Dain(Iron Hills version) can summon only temporarily one battalion Ram riders on level 10.

[LordDainIronfoot]

Another good idea!But it wil lbe fiting only if they intigrate the Ram Riders somwhere in the Irn hills!

[TiberiusOgden]

I think that Tienety is currently recordman concerning number of suggestions here on MU forums.

[LordDainIronfoot]

Well I was in EIC He is here continuing my work and even better!! I ahveo nly respect for him for standing for his ideas and opinion! go go Tienety!

[Tienety]

I think that Tienety is currently recordman concerning number of suggestions here on MU forums.

Yes, maybe in a Dwarven section but I think you will have more ideas for Lorien and Imladris.

Well I was in EIC He is here continuing my work and even better!! I ahveo nly respect for him for standing for his ideas and opinion! go go Tienety!

Sorry, i don't have more ideas for now.

[The Dark Lord]

I havent read the holl topic but where dwarves on goat mentiond they could make a battalion with goats but tha batalion nog bigger than 3 or 4 riders what do you think sorry of this alreaddy was mentiond

[LordDainIronfoot]

I think the best will be 4 Battalions  of 10 Soldiers!! :-)

[Tienety]

I havent read the holl topic but where dwarves on goat mentiond they could make a battalion with goats but tha batalion nog bigger than 3 or 4 riders what do you think sorry of this alreaddy was mentiond

I wrote similar idea here: 
http://forum.modding-union.com/index.php/topic,31195.0.html