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Elrond - Lord of Imladris
TiberiusOgden:
--- Zitat von: Ealendril am 13. Jul 2015, 22:45 ---Additionally, i dont have any motivation longer to create a third design for Elrond. [ugly]
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Ea I expected such argument ... xD ... and I think that it's little bit irrelevant, because you (team) already had full strength to rework Imladris warriors, how many times, thrice? :P
Maybe it will be sufficient rework his last alliance armor (because definitely there is inspiration from movie makers) in order to look like armor from DG. Elrond really deserve some "costume attention" - in the movie he had three versions of armour and ... at least seven bathrobes. :o
Edit: By the way - minor detail, it seems that Elrond model is without headband:
--- Zitat von: ziqing am 13. Jul 2015, 23:01 ---And is there any of Cirdan's power really related to Narya?
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Just check his first spell ;)
And concerning Nenya or Galadriel - during next days I will create special thread for this, this thread is about Elven rings in general and focuses on Elrond's tornado or armour. :P
So hold the topic otherwise our thread will be locked. :D
Walküre:
--- Zitat von: ziqing am 13. Jul 2015, 22:55 ---Nenya cann't protect the people of Lorien, they win the battle towards Dol Guldor by experienced warriors and sophisticated weaponry. The use of Nenya is to resist the poison and corruption on the woodland from Dol Guldor, thus preserving the living space for Galadrim. In my opinions, Galadriel's power related to Nenya shouldn't be anything directly related to battle. It could heal the friendly units, summon fog to retard enemy's movement, provide resistance to poison or give some bonus to Malorn Tree, something like that.
One of my thought, is make Galadriel's Nenya related her level, as she levels up to lv 3,5 ,7,10, the Malorn Trees(main economic building) will be gradually enhanced in production and protection.
And is there any of Cirdan's power really related to Narya?
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I think we can continue here our little 'discussion' about Nenya and Galadriel, ziqing :)
I think I have written a ton of posts about this topic, but it is really a great topic 8-)
I recognise the strength and power of Celeborn and the Galadhrim, and they were surely essential in the protection of Lothlórien.
BUT, Tolkien often and clearly stated many times that the bliss of Lothlórien and its safety depend primarily on Galadriel.
- She is a 8000+/20000 year-old Noldorin Princess from Valinor, born before the Sun and the Moon in the Years of the Trees, who has seen the Holy and Eternal Light of the Trees (something that Celeborn and the Guardian of the Grey Havens haven't, being born in Beleriand) and captured that light in her hair.
Tolkien once said that she is the greatest of the Noldor, comparing her to her uncle.
- Nenya is 'just' a powerful tool for her, that enhances her powers and allows her to slow and stop the flow of Time and the ineluctable decay of the World.
Her magical powers are far greater, and come from the Ancient Times of the Years of the Trees in Valinor; her powers are thus mixed with the powers of Nenya, a mighty mix that makes her one of the most powerful beings in Middle Earth, someone that Sauron could have never defeated without the One Ring.
- In the dark and disenchanted Third Age, an Age dominated by Men, she appears to be more as a goddess, almost as a Maia, who is part of the legend, in the eyes of simple Humans and rustic Wood Elves (Mirkwood), as Legolas says, full of wonder, about the Golden Wood.
- You can't refer to Lothlórien, talking about its military power, leadership and defence, as if you were referring to the Kingdoms of Men, that obviously rely more on the their military strength and the value of their soldiers.
These elements are obviously present in the Golden Wood, but you have to consider that Lothlórien is a magical and enchanted place (one of the few ones in the Third Age), like Mordor, Rivendell, Dol Guldur or Minas Morgul; and Tolkien clearly states that these types of places are so dangerous or blissful because they are corrupted or blessed by Evil or Good Magic, and Magic always emanates from a powerful good or evil magical being, in these cases (in order) Galadriel, Sauron, Elrond and the Witch-king.
Not only does Galadriel make the Golden Wood a timeless and holy sanctuary, but she also protects it with its powers.
Galadriel is the SOURCE of all the Joy, Bliss, Timeless Atmosphere and Safety of Lothlórien, and when she leaves, after the War of the Ring, the Golden Wood gradually gets darkened and decays, to the point that, when Arwen goes there to die, it is totally unrecognisable.
Galadriel is also naturally recognised and acknowledged as a true leader and guardian by her People; a Light that always fights the Darkness.
This is what Haldir tells the Fellowship when it enters Lothlórien.
When he is accompanying the Fellowship to Caras Galadhon, he talks about the bliss and majesty of Lothlórien and compares this realm to Dol Guldur in the East (where the Darkness has returned, more powerful than ever) and to Mordor itself in the far East; Haldir says that the wills of Galadriel and Sauron clash together from afar (Lothlórien and Mordor) in a sort of 'telepathic' fight, in which the two try to see through each other's minds and plans, and Galadriel succeeds in it, while Sauron not.
In Haldir's words, she is also represented as the embodiment of Light, and Sauron the embodiment of Darkness, and Galadriel is the nemesis of Sauron in the World; Haldir also says that the 'secret' (Nenya) of the strength and bliss of Lothlórien has not yet been discovered.
Probably the 'sophisticated weaponry' you are referring to is this :P
Ealendril der Dunkle:
--- Zitat ---Ea I expected such argument ... xD ... and I think that it's little bit irrelevant, because you (team) already had full strength to rework Imladris warriors, how many times, thrice? :P
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Got me! :D
TiberiusOgden:
--- Zitat von: DieWalküre am 13. Jul 2015, 23:45 ---I think we can continue here our little 'discussion' about Nenya and Galadriel, ziqing :)
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These walls of texts definitely aren't little discussion. :D :P
Walküre:
Magic, the Three Rings and Lothlórien are pivotal themes in Tolkien's Universe.
And you know me, I can't contain myself when we talk about Galadriel (**)
Galadriel is for me what the 'Iron Hills soldiers from BOTFA' concept is for LordDainIronfoot :)
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