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Walküre:

--- Zitat von: TiberiusOgden am  4. Aug 2015, 21:54 ---
--- Zitat von: DieWalküre am  3. Aug 2015, 19:25 ---But an issue comes, I think, once the power has already been used for all your heroes, and they are all present on the battlefield.
In this situation, this power will naturally become useless for her, and it's a pity, considering that it is a level 7 ability of the leader of a faction, leaving her very vulnerable to the threats of Hero Killers or other units; adding also that her level 3 power (Glance in the Mirror) could also affect negatively your own heroes.
One could also say, however, that, once the Gifts have been handed to the heroes, this will result in a significant enhancement for your heroes and your faction overall, compensating the flaws of this power.
I totally agree with this objection, because, again, I don't want this power to be changed, since I think that a possible and alternative solution for Galadriel's 'safety' could be found about other abilities of hers; I will explain it later, as for the one of the level 3 power.

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Exactly my thoughts and it was quite frequent kind of complaining on Moddb.com - that "Glance in the mirror" has negative effect for friendly heroes (so Galadriel works for enemy?) and that skill "Gifts of Lorien" maybe is not "real skill" for hero - first one is former fotress upgrade and second thing is former spell from Spellbook. Maybe this is reason why these spells are problematic for her as a hero.
Also spell "Vision in the mirror" - can be very useful for Multiplayer game, but against AI such spell is completely useless. But I am just saying - that spell has specific kind of balance. :P


--- Zitat von: DieWalküre am  3. Aug 2015, 19:25 ---- NENYA'S PROTECTION:

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It's obvious that through that skill Galadriel protects her realm, but question is - is she protected as well? No she is not.
It's very nice that it affects everything around her (although for only short, very short time) but what reaction of the enemy will be? It's simple - he will send everything what he have against her. And Gladys is one of the slowest heroes and then she will be immediately gone. xD
If she will be protected as well, it will be quite problematic, because invulnerability have only tank heroes (like Thorin or Hama).

Neverthless, we can expect from Extended edition (or at least concept arts it described) that Nenya protects Galadriel as well:


--- Zitat ---"We offered up ideas for how the confrontation might play out.  Azog was going to be there to harvest Gandalf's Ring of Power.  Philippa [Boyens] talked to us about Galadriel protecting herself and the prone Wizard from Azog through the power of her Elven Ring, Nenya, which would manifest flashes of fallen Elven heroes like Gil-galad or Earendil whenever tried to strike her.  He couldn't touch her."
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Interesting idea about ring of protection:


She is simply untouchable :)


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True, the negative effects might end up to be a bit problematic for Galadriel, given also that her role consists in supporting absolutely positively your heroes and the allies' ones, and that, lore speaking, her advices always turned out to be very helpful and useful, though harsh they initially could seem; I have to say that 'Glance in the Mirror' is the ability I like the least among all her powers.

It's right that her Foresight ability is far more useful in Multiplayer games, but I don't mind it, since it will be the most powerful Foresight ability in the game, a very characteristic trait of hers  8-)

About the Gifts of Lórien, I totally agree with you about the possible problems involved, but, as I wrote above, I like very much this power, as it is a symbol of her status and it's a previous important spell that now Galadriel will personally activate, as she precisely does in the lore, handing personally the Gifts to the Fellowship.
So, given these issues, a possible balance solution, could be making the upgrades and bonus of the Gifts really relevant and effective, so that the other heroes can compensate the lack of 'offensive' powers of Galadriel; another solution, as I wrote in my previous comment, could rightly consist in enhancing her primary attack against units a bit, giving it a moderate knock back effect, granting Galadriel more chances to escape and defend herself.

Regarding Nenya, I sincerely hope that its powers will protect everything around Galadriel (units/heroes + structures), as it is a very reasonable and unique proposal for her  :)
And I agree with you, it's logical that Galadriel should be protected as well by her own Ring of Power, she is the Lady of Light after all  ;)
I also, graphically speaking, would add an effect, while the powers of Nenya are activated; I would make Nenya shine on her finger of a White Light, as Narya currently shines on Círdan's finger.
All the Three Rings should shine of a White Light on the finger of their Bearers  :)

Gandalf The Gray:
but elronds ring should shine a lil bit blueish

TiberiusOgden:

--- Zitat von: DieWalküre am  5. Aug 2015, 14:36 ---All the Three Rings should shine of a White Light on the finger of their Bearers  :)

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I agree. It will be very nice cosmetic detail.
Why only Cirdan has such utility? All three ring bearers should have the same conditions. By the way - Galadriel had such kind of cosmetic upgrade through gift from Celeborn in the previous version. He gave her some jewel which enhanced her abilities, so we know that it will work.

Walküre:
By the way, it's not completely true that PJ failed to represent the connection between Nenya and the sanctity of Lothlórien.
In this sequence, in the very first second (0.01), Aragorn sees from afar Lothlórien, beyond the clouds, and it's clearly visible that the Golden Wood is embalmed with an unnatural calm and sunny Weather, representing its ethereal and magical nature  :)

Galadriel at her best  (**)

https://youtube.com/watch?v=wbOvoGqraKY

TiberiusOgden:
I've just reworked the first page and normal form of Galadriel. Tomorrow I'll post also the rest of her forms, which will be reworked little bit, too. ;)

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