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Earth Shaker is it fair!? :)

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TiberiusOgden:

--- Zitat von: Melkor Bauglir am  6. Aug 2015, 22:47 ---Well, for example ered luin has tons of additional heroes.

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Which ones?
All Dwarven faction has six heroes. Any other hero is just summonable hero and has some resctrictions.


--- Zitat von: Melkor Bauglir am  6. Aug 2015, 22:47 ---So the dwarven factions have certain differences

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Yes, I completely agree, we should focus it and give some balance to them as well, but through the comparison with equal numbers. Not when some unit is just extra unit.


--- Zitat von: Melkor Bauglir am  6. Aug 2015, 22:47 ---Also: If the earth shaker is a gimmick (one might disagree here, but I think it is), then Erebor hasn't a real additional unit, so there is no single disadvantage between the factions.

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Even if there will be something what is completely useless, so technically it's still additional unit in comparison with the rest of Dwarven kingdoms.


--- Zitat ---All three Dwarven kingdoms have:

* Three standard units
* One elite unit
* Veterans
* Six standard heroes
* One cavalry
* Two siege machines (except Erebor - we can find three siege machines there)
* Three units available on the outpost (Lake Town/Dale)
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Sorry, but numbers are still very clear. xD

Melkor Bauglir:
I give up. We're are achieving absolutely nothing here, because the both of us have given their statements and further talking would ultimately be a repeat.

TiberiusOgden:

--- Zitat von: Melkor Bauglir am  6. Aug 2015, 23:23 ---I give up.

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That's a pity. :( :P
But I think that we are considering similarly.
Firstly - I want to deal with exact numbers. And some earth shaker does not care me. To be honestly.
When we will get the same numbers, we can then compare them and find if some number (or better say hero/unit) has for instance higher importance than hero/unit in the rest of Dwarven factions. I think that it will be easier, cause we will have the same numbers (things) to compare them and find problematic issues than work with numbers where simply one faction (Erebor) has such clear advantage (even if that unit is completely useless).
I hope that you are able to understand me. :)

LordDainIronfoot:
I support Tiberius and Tienity!An extra unit is an extra unit!All dwarven realms should have both differences and balance! :-) And all Draco says is basically that he loves "his"  "perfect" Erebot and want it to be the strongest and more uniqe than other's!While each fraction has its strengths and weaknesses an extra unit is no fair for the other! :-)

Draco100000:

--- Zitat von: LordDainIronfoot am  6. Aug 2015, 23:37 ---I support Tiberius and Tienity!An extra unit is an extra unit!All dwarven realms should have both differences and balance! :-) And all Draco says is basically that he loves "his"  "perfect" Erebot and what it to be the strongest and more uniqe than other's!While each fraction has its strengths and weaknesses an extra unit is no fair for the other! :-)

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LOL I mean LOL WTF OMG I have no expressions to explain how I am feelling, well firstly you cant say that this made erebor the stronger because Ered Luin is OP because of Heros, and Ironhills Infantry is extreamly strong, so WTF, Now erebor with medium infantry and 1 damn non-used unit have to be deleted? Camon, I simply love their use I mean, make an earthquake with this siege machines is very cool. Im not worried about this, because i still have the choice to use my mighty catapults far away more powerfull than any other faction. Pls check firstly Ered Luin heros than this shit, camon no one use erebor online, all people use Ered Luin because of their damn heros, OP with Fate rune. This is incredible, well Im agree with Iron Ballistas, camon even with the ridicoulous ram riders, but the earthshackers? camon this is pointless in comparison with a lot of balance bugs that the mod have now. This earthshackers are simply cool, and dont represent any advantage ¿WHY? Because I have damn catapults with high damage and this will destroy entire bases in seconds.  So pls, stop saying that this make Erebor the strongest faction because its a enormous lie. before again start the same discussion, check this "advantage" and try to destroy a damn farm. You will see what "advantage" is this.
I call any creator to share his opinion here, Must be deleted earthshackers?

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