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#15 von TiberiusOgden am 06 Aug, 2015 23:22
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I suppose that firstly Tienety will describe some new abilities for him - in order to be regular hero.
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#16 von Elite KryPtik am 07 Aug, 2015 00:38
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I gave a a full roster of new abilities for him too, in the mass slayer role in my poll for the new hero system idea.
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#17 von LordDainIronfoot am 07 Aug, 2015 08:13
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I agree that Erkebrand can be new mass slayer while Eomer can be like an Unit Supporter with Hero Killing Aspect to represent his outlaw leading his troop ans killing the Mumakil Rider!But as it comes to new Abilities I will leave that to you guys I am not so good in making them and especially not Dwarven ones
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#18 von Tienety am 08 Aug, 2015 10:06
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I suppose that firstly Tienety will describe some new abilities for him - in order to be regular hero.
Yes, here they are:
Erkenbrand
Erkenbrand will be available in Gathering Bell as standard hero with mass slayer role for Rohan(price: 1600).
Erkenbrand abilities:
Level 1: Mount
Level 1: Red shield
Erkenbrand uses his shield with enormous strength against his enemies.
Selected target and all enemies nearby will receive medium damage and be knocked back.
Level 3: Black horn
Erkenbrand uses his horn to give courage to all nearby friendly units.
Erkenbrand and nearby friendly units get +15% move speed and cannot be slowed down while trampling for 15 seconds.
Level 5: Strength of Helm Hammerhand
Erkenbrand's strength is reminiscent of Helm Hammerhand, one of the legendary heroes from Rohan's history. He uses his immense strength in combat.
He gains +50% damage, +20% attack speed and area-effect damage for 30 seconds.
Level 7: Reinforcements from Westfold
Erkenbrand gathers reinforcements from Westfold.
This ability unlocks Erkenbrand's second palantir. He can choose which units to summon to the battlefield.
Level 7: Swordsman of the Westfold
Erkenbrand summons three battalions of Swordsman of the Westfold to the battlefield for a short time.
Level 8: Spearmen of Westfold
Erkenbrand summons three battalions of Spearmen of the Westfold to the battlefield for a short time.
Level 10: Riders of Westfold
Erkenbrand summons three battalions of Riders of the Westfold to the battlefield for a short time.
You can have only one type of Westfall units in same time.
What do you think?
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#19 von Adrigabbro am 08 Aug, 2015 10:54
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If you want to make him a mass slayer, how about giving him an area of effect attack, for instance with your spell "Strength of Helm Hammerland" ?
Otherwise nice ideas.
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#20 von Gandalf The Gray am 08 Aug, 2015 11:15
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i played with eomer of rohan and i will say i agree with Elite KryPtik eomers is a bad mass slayer for his role
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#21 von Tienety am 08 Aug, 2015 12:34
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If you want to make him a mass slayer, how about giving him an area of effect attack, for instance with your spell "Strength of Helm Hammerland" ?
Yes, this is a good idea for him.
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#22 von Elite KryPtik am 08 Aug, 2015 19:58
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I took Tinety's ability ideas and improved the English, much as I do for the team on a regular basis
Many of these ideas are very similar to my ideas for him posted in the new hero system thread, we think similarly Tinety
Level 1: Mount
Level 1: Red shield
Erkenbrand uses his shield with enormous strength against his enemies.
Selected target and all enemies nearby will receive medium damage and be knocked back.
Level 3: Black horn
Erkenbrand uses his horn to give courage to all nearby friendly units.
Erkenbrand and nearby friendly units get +15% move speed and cannot be slowed down while trampling for 15 seconds.
Level 5: Strength of Helm Hammerhand
Erkenbrand's strength is reminiscent of Helm Hammerhand, one of the legendary heroes from Rohan's history. He uses his immense strength in combat.
He gains +50% damage, +20% attack speed and area-effect damage for 30 seconds.
Level 7: Reinforcements from Westfold
Erkenbrand gathers reinforcements from Westfold.
This ability unlocks Erkenbrand's second palantir. He can choose which units to summon to the battlefield.
Level 7: Swordsman of the Westfold
Erkenbrand summons three battalions of Swordsman of the Westfold to the battlefield for a short time.
Level 8: Spearmen of Westfold
Erkenbrand summons three battalions of Spearmen of the Westfold to the battlefield for a short time.
Level 10: Riders of Westfold
Erkenbrand summons three battalions of Riders of the Westfold to the battlefield for a short time. -
#23 von Tienety am 08 Aug, 2015 20:30
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I took Tinety's ability ideas and improved the English, much as I do for the team on a regular basis
Thanks!
Many of these ideas are very similar to my ideas for him posted in the new hero system thread, we think similarly Tinety
Yes, I know about your abilities. You are created abilities for tank and unit Interruptor roles. I used his characteristics from the books for mass mass slayer role.
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#24 von LordDainIronfoot am 09 Aug, 2015 07:28
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I like all thos Abilities from Tienity!I think they will make Erkebrand a good regualr Hero!I alwasy loved him as a character and Marshal from Rohan and now he will really be good Leader and hero killier to some degree!The Abilities are fine I like them a lot! I hopethat the Team will approve them and use them!
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#25 von TiberiusOgden am 09 Aug, 2015 09:46
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I took Tinety's ability ideas and improved the English, much as I do for the team on a regular basis
Really professional service.
Tienety looks like professional concept maker.
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#26 von Gandalf The Gray am 09 Aug, 2015 15:22
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I like all thos Abilities from Tienity!I think they will make Erkebrand a good regualr Hero!I alwasy loved him as a character and Marshal from Rohan and now he will really be good Leader and hero killier to some degree!The Abilities are fine I like them a lot!
i think Éowyn is an awesome hero killer and i dont think rohan needs another hero killer I hopethat the Team will approve them and use them! -
#27 von Tienety am 10 Aug, 2015 08:14
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Yes, you're right. Dain made a mistake. Erkenbrand will be mass slayer and Eomer gets his old role: Moster killer with support abilities.I like all thos Abilities from Tienity!I think they will make Erkebrand a good regualr Hero!I alwasy loved him as a character and Marshal from Rohan and now he will really be good Leader and hero killier to some degree!The Abilities are fine I like them a lot!
i think Éowyn is an awesome hero killer and i dont think rohan needs another hero killer I hopethat the Team will approve them and use them!
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#28 von Ealendril der Dunkle am 10 Aug, 2015 12:20
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Zitat
Yes, you're right. Dain made a mistake. Erkenbrand will be mass slayer and Eomer gets his old role: Moster killer with support abilities.
Thats in fact the mainly problem and the reason, why Eomer gets a new role in Edain 4.0. Rohan has already really good supporters: Gamling, Theoden and Theodred. Additionally Rohan has a Herocounter and Monsterslayer: Eowyn. Then we have the scout Merry and the tank Hama.
Eomer has a great massslayer ability on Level 10, a passive pillage ability to gain ressources by slaughter groups of enemies and his spear at earlier stages.
If we transform Eomer up to a herocounter and supporter, Eomer will compete with every other hero in Rohan.
Currently there is no need to define Erkenbrand as a full massslayer hero for Rohan.
Sorry, but i have to reject this proposal.
PS: If we look up to the poll:
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#29 von Tienety am 10 Aug, 2015 12:35
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Ok, I understand, maybe just Erkenbrand can have 1-2 new abilities as captain.ZitatYes, you're right. Dain made a mistake. Erkenbrand will be mass slayer and Eomer gets his old role: Moster killer with support abilities.
And this is the primarly problem and the reason, why Eomer gets a new role in Edain 4.0. Rohan has already really good supporters: Gamling, Theoden and Theodred. Additionally Rohan has a Herocounter and Monsterslayer: Eowyn. Then we have the scout Merry and the tank Hama.
Eomer has a great massslayer ability on Level 10, a passive pillage ability to gain ressources by slaughter groups of enemies and his spear at earlier stages.
If we transform Eomer up to a herocounter and supporter, Eomer will compete with every other hero in Rohan.
Currently there is no need to define Erkenbrand as a full massslayer hero for Rohan.
Sorry, but i have to reject this proposal.
but Eomer is good massslayer only on level 10. Maybe he can have this ability earlier on level 5 but a little weaker. Also, this ability can get more damage on level 7 and 10.