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Gandalf7000:
I'm here to propose a little graphical improvements/changes for Saruman's ailities.

First the ability Power of the Speech i think it could use a better picture (not the cartoonish one from the base game). This below is a his staff from the movie and couple of other pics i seemed worthy for this ability:

And for the ability Wormtongue - i propose to rename this to Ensnaring Voice and change the picture to something like this:

Your thoughts?

Only True Witchking:
I think it'd be a nice touch to change the Name of Wormtongue, since there is of course already another Wormtongue we all know.

For the Pictures however, I'd say switching it around would be better: The first picture should go to "Ensnaring Voice"/"Wormtongue" and the last Picture fits better to "Power of the speech" as it is a Picture from Sarumans speech.

Gandalf7000:

--- Zitat von: TheOnlyTrueWitchking am 27. Mär 2019, 23:48 ---I think it'd be a nice touch to change the Name of Wormtongue, since there is of course already another Wormtongue we all know.

For the Pictures however, I'd say switching it around would be better: The first picture should go to "Ensnaring Voice"/"Wormtongue" and the last Picture fits better to "Power of the speech" as it is a Picture from Sarumans speech.

--- Ende Zitat ---
I agree to switch these ones around. As i've been pointed out in Discord, the Ensnaring Voice should use picture of saruman being friendly, needing to have peace as in the extended scene of RotK. I'll try to find a suitable one and cut it and see what's of it.

EDIT.

So I've managed to crop some of possible pictures. First three are the possible candidates, just there is a minor difference in sarumans facial expressions:

Well and the third one is rather tricky, cause it's from the scene where saruman asks "Are you here for information? I have some for you!" So it's not like pleading but still i found this image one of the suitable ones (this really shows the "Wormtongue"like smile):

AmosVogel:
It agree, Saruman didnt need Grima to convince or decieve the minds of its foes.

All those four images of him been charismatic and benevolent are cool, Saruman could access a special palantir  only for his voice.

And yes, i know mouth of sauron would be very similar, but we all fans can imagine what voice powers we can give to him.

Here are some ideas:

http://i64.tinypic.com/6izfd2.png
So you have come here for information? : All the enemy units and heroes loose their sight for a short time.
----
http://i67.tinypic.com/zx0brl.png
Cannot we take councel together? : Saruman uses his most mellow voice against his foes. Saruman does not recieve any damage for a medium time.
----
http://i64.tinypic.com/6sfcj6.png
You have fought many wars and slain many men: The selected enemy heroe becomes hostile towards his allies for a short time.

This could be a very interesting upgrade to Saruman.

Also i noticed that all the Istari, save Saruman got their respective titles. Hope it can be fixed!

Greetings ^^

Gandalf7000:

--- Zitat von: AmosVogel am 31. Mär 2019, 18:58 ---It agree, Saruman didnt need Grima to convince or decieve the minds of its foes.

All those four images of him been charismatic and benevolent are cool, Saruman could access a special palantir  only for his voice.

And yes, i know mouth of sauron would be very similar, but we all fans can imagine what voice powers we can give to him.

Here are some ideas:

http://i64.tinypic.com/6izfd2.png
So you have come here for information? : All the enemy units and heroes loose their sight for a short time.
----
http://i67.tinypic.com/zx0brl.png
Cannot we take councel together? : Saruman uses his most mellow voice against his foes. Saruman does not recieve any damage for a medium time.
----
http://i64.tinypic.com/6sfcj6.png
You have fought many wars and slain many men: The selected enemy heroe becomes hostile towards his allies for a short time.

This could be a very interesting upgrade to Saruman.

Also i noticed that all the Istari, save Saruman got their respective titles. Hope it can be fixed!

Greetings ^^

--- Ende Zitat ---
Thank you for your support. I actually like this new Voice Palantir, it would be great to see it ingame. However i doubt it will convince Edain Team cause of the aforementioned similarities between him and Mouth of Sauron, but still you have my full suppoort on this one.

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