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General Balance Discussion

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Odysseus:
You are making it sound like the Rams are unsupported. Rams cost almost no CP, so you can literally get like 15 rams supported by for example orcs. They are dirt cheap and do good damage. When rams are supported, their value skyrockets, especially the quick and cheap rams of Isengard and Mordor. I think two or three patches ago, they received a small armour nerf, which I think was good. What I would like to see myself is Rams that cost 300 given the same armour values as catapults when attacked in melee. The 500 rams are fine imo, since they are slower and easier to hit and more difficult to mingle between the troops. The 300 ones, the cheap ones, they need to die like flies, not survive several hits.

Hamanathnath:

--- Zitat von: -Mandos- am 23. Mai 2016, 14:49 ---If your enemy has invested like 4000 to 6000 gold for rams you cant expect to beat that with units for 200...

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I'm expecting a base fully equip with Towers, which costs a lot for faction like Dwarves and Gondor, as well as the 1500 cost upgrade that improves all of them, to deal with Battering Rams decently well.  I don't see how that is unreasonable.

Yes certain faction can deal with the Ram Spam with just their base defenses, but most of them, even when fully upgraded, can not.  This is most glaring with the Dwarves, Lothlorien, and Isengard, who all have to pay a lot for these defenses.

Odysseus:
Isengard can get the defensive Warg Pit though, which is good against Rams.

Hamanathnath:

--- Zitat von: Odysseus am 23. Mai 2016, 15:46 ---Isengard can get the defensive Warg Pit though, which is good against Rams.

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True, but it won't do enough to actually affect anything.  The Rams would most likely destroy the building before the Warg can even kill 1 Ram. And for decently obvious reasons, having moultiple of those buildings instead of resource buildings will hurt you in the long run.

Elendils Cousin 3. Grades:
I'm 100% with Mandos here that rams don't need a nerf and it was just a case of being outplayed (not trying to be rude, that can happen to anyone)... but I didn't see the replay, of course. So it would be best if you post it, because I certainly won't believe rams overperform when spammed unless there is some sort of proof^^

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