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Mordor Balance Discussion
-DJANGO-:
Agree with you, although i have not yet tested Mordor VS Rohan in 1VS1.
Another option for Mordor, that i think you forgot, would be to get early Cirith Ungol. But logically they would come too late (for early Exile Rohirrim) and that also should remain like that because Cirith Ungol is supposed to help Mordor against early Upgrade Units and Upgraded CAV.
So I agree with you that they key is the Exile Camp itself + maybe the normal pikes of Mordor. Nevertheless we should be aware that Rohan should be the better EG faction. A lot of the new changes to 4.3 balanced it quite good, more expensive Cirith Ungol, New Rohan Outpost.
In my opinion this would be step 1: Now raising the costs of Exile Camp to lets say 700 would already be effective in my eyes. I dont know how important the idea is, that the Exile Camp should be a cheap alternative for Rohan. Considering the really good buffs and options for Rohan, i think its also quite fair that the Exile Camp costs more than 500. Especially because it generates ressources itself.
Step 2 would be: slightly to change the stats of normal Mordor pikemen. I dont really like the idea that Rohrirrim become already extremly usless against Mordor in EG. Yes maybe they are a bit too weak atM, but they definitely should not become the "new Cirith Ungol Pikes".
Hamanathnath:
I didn't mention Cirith Ungol because it takes too to get the Halberiers, costs more then going for Mountain Trolls, and the Cirth Ungol Barracks is unprotected by the Mordor base, making it too costly of a loss.
And when I say Mordor Orc Pikes should be buffed, I mean very slightly. They should still be one of the worst pike units, but slightly better then they are now. But thinking about it, I think reducing the cost of Mordor Orc Pikes to 250 or 200 would be a better idea, considering how weak they are right now. Everyone I see play as Mordor just goes for Halberdiers anyways.
Elite KryPtik:
We should keep discussion about the Exile Camp to the Rohan balance thread. I just want to point out that even before the Exile Camp existed and Mordor was nerfed, they still had nothing to beat Rohan. A well played Rohan can completely shut down Mordors early and late game, because Mordors pikes have always been terribad. Its not just the Exile Camp, there has always been a huge advantage for the Rohan player. Its a fundamental faction based problem, if you want to call it a problem. I personally don't mind it, some matchups have always been bad for certain factions, even in vanilla. It just makes for more interesting matches.
Elendils Cousin 3. Grades:
I agree with a price increse for the Exile Camp. The resource production and the buff alone are worth more than 500, and the Exiles themselves are the cherry on top. I'd also vote for shortening the duration of the buff it gives. I like that mechanic on statues, but the Exile Camp doesn't need it imho, especially with the speed buff it gives.
Hamanathnath:
I know that this isn't the place for this discussion, I don't mind the Exile Camp giving a buff, but 90 seconds is a LONG time to have it, so I agree that should be shortened to 60 seconds.
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