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Dwarven Balance Discussion

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Lord of Mordor:
Ram Riders have the same stats as Gondor Knights or Meduseld Knights, only they are limited to three and don't have an ability. They're not actually extraordinarily powerful.

LordDainIronfoot:
So they are basically like Normal Medium Cavalry!? :)

Elite KryPtik:

--- Zitat von: Lord of Mordor am 14. Apr 2016, 12:56 ---Ram Riders have the same stats as Gondor Knights or Meduseld Knights, only they are limited to three and don't have an ability. They're not actually extraordinarily powerful.

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This is another case of stats not reflecting performance. Remember, you can't get the rams until you have Narin, who provides superior leaderships to the rams, with both his level 1 and 3 abilities, which allow you to get heroic-level performance out of the unit. If the rams aren't getting nerfed anymore than Narin definitely should.

Odysseus:
Stats are accurate. They cannot reflect something else, they reflect what they are. It's the sum of those stats that is different per faction. The stats absolutely reflect performance, there is no mistake about it. However, it is the same thing with Gondor Knights. In the tournament circles, Gondor Knights are deemed OP and the LPS fix nerfed them a bit, so with identical stats the Ram Riders are OP too and would probably be nerfed as well. Still, I don't think Ram Riders are really the issue, perhaps Narin is indeed too strong with his leadership. Any supposed deviation is either incorrect implementation of stats, like typos and other multiplying bugs, or interpretation, but these are all human errors. Stats never lie. Once you start coding yourself, everything becomes quite clear, I always say ^^.

I for one, would like to see their stats reflect more of a line-breaker unit rather than the heavy Gondor Knight stats approach that they currently have. Gondor Knights are very tanky and should sacrifice some DPS for it, imo.

Elite KryPtik:
Sorry, I wrote that when I had just woke up, let me be a bit clearer. What I meant was that due to all the buffs Narin can give the unit, their stats are really better than the base stats should be, due to his passive leadership + Combat Command. Its pretty rare I think that the Ram Riders wouldn't be led by Narin, since they are unlocked by him. So I meant their base stats are really enhanced by Narin, which is the factor that makes them OP. If you were to hit the enemy without Narin leading them, then of course they would basically be Gondor Knights.

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