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Iron Hills Hero Roles,some adjusments!?

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ThorinsNemesis:
I like your ideas too.
I always imagined Dain for the Iron Hills should get a little more 'Mass slayer'-like, and that lvl 10 ability would fit in nicely  :).
And I completely agree, when I saw Thorin III's concept by the Team, I thought he looked like an excellent opportunity for a hero killer, at least he looks like a very good hero killer to me  xD.

LordDainIronfoot:
Glad you like it! :-) But what you think of the Abilities of the other Heroes my friend!? :-)
About Thorin III agree with you,I thought the same,although I think he can keep his old Face but with more Orange Color and may be less Leather and more Iron Armor but that is for another topic! :-)

ThorinsNemesis:
About Murin, I again agree that he should be a tank since he has that shield (on different topic, I think he should get a different helmet, he looks like a Dwarven Eomer now  [ugly])
For Drar, I like your idea too, although I still think it would be better if he summoned five balistas from BOTFA instead of the catapults  :).

LordDainIronfoot:
About Murin visuals I have made a Suggestion in the Brief Dwarven Suggestions Thread because I too think he looks too much like Eomer ,you can look at my suggestion,the Team said they will think about that in Future! :-)

Drat of.course he.can get the Ballista Summon but since that Ballista Thread is still on.discussion I made another Ability! :-) But I personally prefer the Iron Ballista to be recruitable as a Siege Unit!:-)

CragLord:
Hello there. :)

It is nice to see one more dwarven topic (in my eyes ofc :P ).
First, I like idea of topic, and I hope we will suggest something unique and smart here, Iron Hills are in my opinion also in bad situation concerning number of heroes.
Second, Dain, you should always add to topic list of current  hero abilities with their descriptions among new abilities you propose so people here could have good insight in situation. Simply because comparison and insight of changed details of abilities (I needed to start game so I could refresh my memory about current abilites :P).

Concerning Lord Dain hero, I am against this level 10 ability change in way you have proposed. I think also that he is mainly unit supporter and this new proposal won't add him true mass slayer property. I mean, he will be more mass slayer but not in right way. He will buff his armor and speed and damage but for real mass slayer role (even in minor term as you probably have meant) he need some area damage ability or area damage weapon damage swing etc. Buffing his attack without AOE weapon damage won't add some mass slayer property to him. This is not main reason why I am against this, I am mainly because I would like to see some unique units summon in his palantir. I know we have discussed so many times about this, and I am still for some new summon, because current one is very non fitting in lore and other aspects, as you have mentioned some of them. In my opinion this summon should be change to summon of those book described veterans, that kind of summon is the best in lore aspects, and those veterans have already good models in dwarven slayer units. I know that this proposal has already been suggested, but I really can't agree to any other summon ability of units (including current one which is I must say again very non fitting). Also I couldn't say that I agree about your proposal of adding that new ability, simply in my mind is some summon of lore proved units (models to be precise).

Concerning new present Thorin model, I agree he now deserve new hero killer role in Iron Hills kingdom. So I agree and support your proposal about him. :) Also I hope he will keep his rune supporting role, which I really like.

Murin, also nice proposal, I agree about it. He should have tanky role, and I agree about current level 8 ability, which is in my opinion very poor in concept terms. This ability need to be changed, I support your proposal.

Concerning Drar, there is currently small problem. I never liked this Sabotage ability, so I am more for adding balistas in places of this ability. This suggestion is in one hand part of that Iron Hills Siege weapon topic. About your proposal, replacing those mini Barrage ability with Catapults is fine if catabults landing projectiles will have same area damage effect. If catapult proposal is for single building, then I am aginst it. xD Also I am not so found of summoning of Iron Hills archers for purpose of doing some area damage instead of summoning of balistas for example (because this ability is also candidate for sabotage ability place in palantir of abilities). :)

Concerning Narin, I really like messenger idea. I hope his integration as scout hero in general with some hero supporting abilities as you have suggested. In my eyes it is very nice suggestion. Fredius have also suggested nice ability, that "Diplomatic Immunity". This ability is very nice for scout hero and it represent nice modification of cloak hobbit ability but in terms of messenger. So I am for integration of this ability also but for some lower level, it really represent nice scout ability.

Greetings

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