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dkbluewizard:
Also lordoflinks, I feel the bluewizards should be separate from the Evil Men, there is nothing in canon that says they were with Sauron's forces. So I agree with your newest proposal more than any

dkbluewizard:
Lordoflinks

I did some thinking and I still like your concept. I also wanted to add this, I feel that the starting castle/camp should be black numenorean based given that they colonized all around middle earth. Then I think we could use the heroes you suggested, but I would like to see the Evil Men pick their theme from the Black Numenor fortress. There they can choose Harad or Rhun and have all the powers, settlements, and stuff that you talk about along with the ringheroes as well.

I would still like to see a Dwarf like system implemented for the Evil Men faction, why? Cause they would have more heroes this way and it still separates them enough to show that they are independent from each other and would fight each other.

If we absolutely cannot do a Dwarf like system between just Rhun and Harad. Then we should continue with what you said. But I honestly feel that your way mixed with my way would be the best option for all. The only task that would be hard is the Dwarf like system, but I think since they would just be picking between Rhun and Harad that the coders wouldn't have too much difficulty.  :)

lordoflinks:
In an ideal world the Blue Wizards would be with a Dorwinion fraction.
I feel that Rhun is the best base, as the Dark Numerorians never played a huge role in the War of the Ring, and Harad is too savage and nomadic I feel to have a Castle.
I don't believe the Dwarf system would work, as it can not cater for different Castles, and would end up making Harad and Rhun symmetrical when in reality they had very different focuses. I see the virtue in a Dwarf system, but I don't know if I could come up with enough units and buildings for Harad. However that in the end is a question for the Coders.
I am glad you like my newer proposal, I feel it captures the essence of the men who turned to Melkor in the first and second ages.

dkbluewizard:
To LordofLinks,

I do like your proposal, I also thought that maybe we could include a Priest of Morgoth hero for Rhun, since I know he went to the East to contact the men in the Silmarillion. Perhaps the Evil Men could have four ring heroes: The three that you said and the Priest of Morgoth for Rhun. 2 for Harad and 2 for Rhun.

The only reason I suggested a Black Numenor fortress is because any Evil Man faction can use it as their starting point and then their traditional buildings could be built inside and outside the fortress. I like this concept because, like I said, it makes more sense and signifies the distinction between their cultures while also addressing their ties to the dark numenorians.

Coding is an issue, but I think it could be made to work. I have seen Edain accomplish such great tasks.

lordoflinks:
A Priest of Morgoth hero is a good idea for Rhun and gives them another hero but I would only be in favour of making him a ring hero if the dwarf system was used, other wise he would be redundant.
The thing is Rhun does not have ties to Numenor through Dark or light, and giving them a fortress based of Numenor I feel diminishes their own accomplishments, as it implies Rhun has become advance as they have had due to Numenor; when in reality their accomplishments are due to themselves.   
Besides Harad can't have a castle with walls; how would you get the Murkamil out. :D

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