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ziqing:
Can any experienced players talk a little about the role of Gondor Knights in Gondor faction, under what circumstance will you consider to use them(in PVP especially)? I cannot really find a place to fit them in.

Also concerning Dol Amroth units, I know they are elites, but what building orders will you use if you decide to recruit them in the game?

The_Necromancer0:
When it comes to me Gondor Knights are a great way to harass players. While your main army is fighting off the main army two battalions of knights (with forged blades and on aggressive stand) can be used to destroy enemy farms. They're also pretty good at trampling, Dol Amroth are an advanced version of that but I don't uses them much.

Elite KryPtik:
For me Gondor Knights come in against factions that are weak against cavalry. So, Mordor, Lorien early game, and Angmar early game. If I am up against the likes of Rohan, Gondor, Isengard or Dwarves, all oh whom have excellent cavalry counters, then I focus entirely on infantry. You can still use them for harassment, but considering the cost of the stables and knights, its really not worth it unless your doing an entirely cavalry focused army build.

Elendils Cousin 3. Grades:
Isengard does have good pikes, but it takes them too long until they get there. Going for Knights vs Isengard in the early game wins you the match, unless you make some terrible mistakes. Isengard can not, under no circumstance, counter Knights until they have pikes - which means that, if used correctly, you'll have the entire map and even a considerable infantry army by the time he has the pikes to stop you from destroying every single external building and unit Isengard has. You should have one or even both outposts and siege (and the economy to get upgrades at the same time) if Isengard doesn't get Wargriders, but even if there are Wargriders, Knights just mop the floor with them. And this is all mostly talking about harassment, not even about their great trample and melee damage that allow you to pick off archers in bigger battles or finish off fleeing swords or completely wreck any isolated unit or hero, which takes so much mapcontrol off your opponent that it's just glorious for you. So yeah, not really sure what you're talking about there, Kryptik^^

You can make Knights work in pretty much every matchup. In my experience it's hardest to do against dwarves, followed by Gondor, but they still have their uses their as described above. If you get just two batallions of Knights, it forces your opponent to get at least four pikes, depending on the map, otherwise either his army or his flanks are unguarded. Having the initiative and forcing your opponent to react to what you're doing is a great thing in itself, but in this case it has the added benefit that pikes are more expensive than swords (ESPECIALLY useful against Mordor). And if he goes pikes only, he can't stop neither your infantry nor your heroes.

Now to Dol Amroth: I have to point out here that I go for the standard outpost nearly everytime. I just like the extra versatility and it gives me siege without having to demolish a building in my base. Anyway: Dol Amroth cavalry is pretty much the heroic version of Gondor Knights. Since I get Knights nearly all the time, I don't get the DA cavalry at all, because if the match isn't decided at that point my oppenent usually has enough pikes to counter my Knights, so those wouldn't make the difference.
The infantry is quite nice when you have a large standing infantry army. They are good swords themselves, but the leadership is the best thing about them, so three or four units are usually all I get to support my army.

ziqing:
Thank you for all your reply. One of the main concern I have for current Gondor faction is that the recruiting mechanism. For Dol Amorth Fortress, the starting price is 2000, I just would like to know how many experienced Gondor players will choose to use them(including Imrahil), and under what circumstance and against which faction they would be necessary.

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